BBC Workers to Strike

marklv

A._Badger wrote: »

But that's a political decision. So why should I be forced to pay for it?

Because BBC management haven't had the good sense to negotiate with their employees.

A._Badger

marklv wrote: »

Because BBC management haven't had the good sense to negotiate with their employees.

I realise it's late but you appear to have quite missed the point.

Why should I, a licence fee payer, have to subsidise a political opinion?

A._Badger

Physio88 wrote: »

The strikes are about the pension, not about the election results...think of it as an added bonus Best thing the BBC have done with licence money in a long long time.

Its also the Tories fault with the public sector cuts that their pension fund is collapsing.

That is nonsense on so many levels that it's hard to know where to start. But, just for fun, are you seriously suggesting the timing of the strikes isn't motivated by party politics?

And, please, spare us lectures about depletion of pension finds due to government jiggery-pokery. Those of us with memories recall a certain son of the manse....

Physio88

A._Badger wrote: »

That is nonsense on so many levels that it's hard to know where to start. But, just for fun, are you seriously suggesting the timing of the strikes isn't motivated by party politics?

And, please, spare us lectures about depletion of pension finds due to government jiggery-pokery. Those of us with memories recall a certain son of the manse....

Firstly, it is not nonsense at all.

Secondly, no I am not suggesting that. It is quite blatantly timed around party politics, however, the strike action is not because of party politics, it just creates an opportunity which the unions have ceased to take a jab at the Tories...and I like it.

Would it cost you more of your precious licence fee if the strikes were a couple of days later? I don't see how.

A._Badger

Physio88 wrote: »

Firstly, it is not nonsense at all.

Secondly, no I am not suggesting that. It is quite blatantly timed around party politics, however, the strike action is not because of party politics, it just creates an opportunity which the unions have ceased to take a jab at the Tories...and I like it.

Would it cost you more of your precious licence fee if the strikes were a couple of days later? I don't see how.

I realise you don't see how. I also realise that you don't seem able to grasp why it is wrong that I should be forced to pay for a political stance that you happen to approve of.

If those on the Left want a party broadcaster, why don't they pay for it, instead of making the rest of us subsidise their quaint beliefs?

I don't expect you to pay for the Daily Telegraph, after all.

Physio88

Oh dear. Unfortunately, you seem to be unable to grasp what I am saying.

I understand that you do not want to pay for the BBC as its too far left for you (and the programming is generally poor). I agree with you on this point completely. It is wrong that you are forced to pay for a particular broadcaster to own a television, regardless of its political nature, and understand that this must be more bitter for you as it counters your personal political preference.

There doesn't seem to be enough Left orientated people with the funds to set up a broadcaster to compete with Sky which is at least as fair right as the BBC is left. Luckily for a the working class and less well off people in this country, the BBC, for the moment is still here.

Your argument suggest that you are just generally (and understandably) anti-BBC. I am yet to "grasp" how these strikes or their timing have further angered you.




However, it is not costing you an

torontoboy45

the bbc is congenitally left-wing. a national treasure perverted by evil trots.

yeah, right. or it could be - but that misses the point.

pensions are a hugely emotive issue. most employees would seriously consider industrial action (citation needed) if the 'firm' decides to reduce/alter/scrap the pension arrangements.

I 'm not on the bbc payroll but if I was: my pension is mine, as agreed per contract. simples.

why should anyone -away from those with an hysterical hatred of anything 'public' - have a problem with this view?

luxurious? perhaps, but it's what employees signed up to. political? could be but any tactics that furthered my (legitimate) claim to a pension would get my support.

or I could shove my head up my @rse and learn to love the d.mail.

tomterm8

So, basically, right at the time we could do with some unbiased reporting, the BBC is shutting off, so in the spending review the only voices will be the 'unbiased' views of skytv and the Sun.

Hm...

Generali

tomterm8 wrote: »

So, basically, right at the time we could do with some unbiased reporting, the BBC is shutting off, so in the spending review the only voices will be the 'unbiased' views of skytv and the Sun.

Hm...

The timing of the strikes leaves the strikers open to a reasonable charge of being politically biased. Striking to protect your contract is reasonable, striking when you work in a body required to be unbiased politically in such a way as to seek to damage a political party is at best iffy.

Any news reporters/editors/producers taking part should think again.

Blacklight

We should have a referendum on whether the UK public continue to subsidise this outfit or just get rid of it. I don't know how the TV license can possibly still be legal.