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  • grahamqat
    grahamqat Posts: 266 Forumite
    What's even funnier is what the authorities want us to believe. Apparently MCO are innocent victims of ID fraud (£1.5M). Close the web-site down to avoid losing more money? No let's open 19 more across Europe so we can get this up to £30M. Ha ha ha ha.
  • alan_se
    alan_se Posts: 22 Forumite
    Grahamqat - I'm not trying for some warped one-up-manship here but Elaine1965 had already found 76 similar websites in this innocent business 'empire' ! :-
    Elaine1965 wrote: »
    All inextricably linked to MCO Capital, here are 76 sites to avoid doing business with! These cover Denmark, Sweden, Holland and Finland. I'll find the UK ones.

    txtmoney247.com
    ideamoney247.com
    arkivippi.fi
    luckyloan.se
    toimilaina.fi
    reddingsgeld.com
    spoedgeld.com
    luottovippi.fi
    vauhtivippi.fi
    ge.leijonalaina.fi
    turvalaina.fi
    megalaina.fi
    otalaina.fi
    vippiasema.fi
    putsclean.fi
    superlaina.fi
    extraatje.com
    tvlaina.fi
    idealaina.fi
    er.pengetrae.com
    menolaina.fi
    perhelaina.fi
    go.statuslaina.fi
    spottstyver.com
    pyttekassa.com
    pyttelan.com
    fokuslaina.fi
    vippitori.fi
    lattkrediten.com
    cu.solskenslan.com
    vardagslan.com
    np.hverdagslan.com
    gk.lanehus.com
    lattlan.com
    manadslan.com
    vardagskrediten.com
    fragapengar.com
    kvicklan.com
    oy.udgifterlan.com
    lk.snuplan.com
    beetjemeer.com
    ek.natpengar.com
    kelpovippi.fi
    vardagsslant.com
    at.vardagskrediten.com
    kvicklan.com
    fokuslan.se
    ef.manadslan.com
    da.pyttekassa.com
    pengatrad.com
    helgslant.com
    ty.spotslant.com
    statuslaina.fi
    natpengar.com
    ca.luottovippi.fi
    oe.otalaina.fi
    rs.reddingsgeld.com
    kg.idealaina.fi
    leijonalaina.fi
    luckyloan.net
    pl.menolaina.fi
    gg.luckyloan.se
    go.focuslaina.fi
    em.beetjemeer.com
    lanehus.com
    udgifterlan.com
    kvicklan.se
    pengetrae.com
    te.perhelaina.fi
    fo.superlaina.fi
    fo.megalaina.fi
    vliegendgeld.com
    focuslaina.fi
    ff.fokuslaina.fi
    vk.luottovippi.fi
    gg.arkivippi.fi
  • grahamqat
    grahamqat Posts: 266 Forumite
    Cheers Alan - no problem - just missed this posting. (Sorry didn't mean to hijack your posting Elaine). The ones I've quoted are server linked, many of Elaine's seem not to be (multiple servers?); will look into it. Also posted live links to make it easier to check them out. This is Pan-European organised crime on a huge scale. Completely immune from all authorities in all countries. Par for the course, I seem to remember when the banks caused global meltdown in the credit crunch, our Government just gave them more of our money, then let them take it home as bonuses. Little wonder the Home Office has already walked away from this scam.
  • geomacl
    geomacl Posts: 365 Forumite
    edited 6 November 2010 at 7:47PM
    grahamqat wrote: »
    Don't know whether this has been posted but "luckyloan" is a similar scam run in Sweden using same IP:
    Link here:
    http://www.luckyloan.se
    Also this site:
    http://www.spoedgeld.com
    Very interesting graham - it seems that this sort of loan system is international and even rampant in Scandinavia.
    If we can find this stuff out, surely our "expert" CoLP. NFIB etc can find it - AND DO SOMETHING!!!!
  • GomerPyle
    GomerPyle Posts: 451 Forumite
    grahamqat wrote: »
    What's even funnier is what the authorities want us to believe. Apparently MCO are innocent victims of ID fraud (£1.5M). Close the web-site down to avoid losing more money? No let's open 19 more across Europe so we can get this up to £30M. Ha ha ha ha.

    Precisely. :T

    Apart from the action Finnish authorities are taking next month, Sweden was considering a blanket ban on SMS based loan sharks last year.

    Very little of what's been said about the fiasco outside this forum is credible.

    The business plan - if they ever had one - lies in tatters as their target market is youngsters and, having made themselves the most uncool laughing stock you could imagine, they're very much a kayak without a paddle.

    I also very much doubt any suggestion that they might have had much measurable non-fraudulent trade in the first place, and a thousand websites isn't going to change the situation so, apart from creating chaos and hysteria, the sum of their achievements is to lose over a million pounds on one of the most badly planned ventures since the Vikings invaded.

    I foresee that it's very much a 'Norwegian Blue' (Monty Python reference) though I'll keep an eye out for revelations about what's in their books, if anything.
  • grahamqat
    grahamqat Posts: 266 Forumite
    Companies House Web-check say they filed last accounts yesterday for period up to 31/12/2009. This may be too dated to show any real activity as the UK web-sites only really got going this June. The money will probably be withdrawn and laundered and the company dissolved before the next accounts are due. If this happens we will never know how much they made and it will leave us all "Pining for the Fjords".
  • grahamqat
    grahamqat Posts: 266 Forumite
    Incidentally, Gomer or Jane, you may be able to answer this, but if you transact a loan electronically direct with a server in Finland, does the process have to comply with UK law? I seem to remember a problem like this arose when Icesave in Iceland went bust a couple of years ago?
  • Robie_Nudd wrote: »
    Possibly Gomer didn't read my initial post. The sourcing of the information is being investigated; it certainly didn't come from scouring electoral registers/telephone directories. I assure him that 9,000 bank separate bank accounts is perfectly credible in this instance - the use of on-line accounts being a major factor - there are clearly not 9,000 separate fraudsters! Perhaps one needs to ask what was seen in verification to open the core accounts?
    Impossible to open lots of different Bank accounts using the same false ID, it would get flagged quickly by UK clearing banks, just the number of searches would send up a flag. Plus you have to present some sort of ID in person before the account becomes live. My understanding from one of the earlier reports was that the cash was being sent to one account, hence the hole in their "checks"

    Also I would guess MCO sail under many UK credit regs due to the loan amount and max loan period.
  • GomerPyle wrote: »
    It's possible that I didn't read your initial post Robie Nudd but I have a specialist lifetime knowledge of UK banking and I can assure you that UK banks take KYC legislation very seriously, and any that don't will soon have their operation shut down. Having an online account doesn't mitigate the statutory obligations placed upon those institutions who open the account.

    I should have read a little further! well said
  • GomerPyle
    GomerPyle Posts: 451 Forumite
    That's an easy one grahamqat.

    This is all being handled using the UK payment system - BACS I presume. The bank they're using has been mentioned who I recall as being Scandinavian, though they're quoting an HSBC sorting code, I believe, but it's not unusual for a non-domestic bank to make use of a domestic bank that way.

    UK law applies throughout and the websites states that. (I always enjoy reading the small print. It can be a dead giveaway and reveals a lot),

    You say they began operations in June. :eek: If you apply a fraud level of 10% which would be horrific, even if it included unsuccessful frauds, but these are all successful and would suggest a total level of business greatly in excess of 100,000 loans which is utter fantasy. Bear in mind also that not one customer, to my knowledge, has visited here and mentioned their experience, good or bad. It's usual with a company under fire that at least their staff, out of loyalty or pressure, will turn up to defend them, but not a peep from anyone.

    Consider also that these are short term loans of maximum duration of 28 days, so the company soon finds out if they're going haywire and you don't treat a mass default as an ordinary day at work. On this scale it would sound alarms. They also specify that they only do one loan at a time to each person. Use of an Excel spread sheet could have avoided multiple losses to the same fraudster. :D

    There are a lot of questions that need to be answered but I strongly suspect this company didn't have many real customers at all. It's not unknown for a lender to expect their debt recovery agent to dig them out of a hole but, in this case, there was no hole dug.

    I'll add these sage words from a site I visited
    Loan officers are dropping out like flies. Heck, even lenders are dropping like flies! The loan officers disappearing the quickest are those who aren’t experts.

    Some people will always use loan sharks, but I'm not sure many will go to these people, or ever did.
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