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Mortgage approvals rose July

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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    edited 31 August 2010 at 12:29PM
    From the horse's mouth:

    http://www.bba.org.uk/media/article/july-figures-for-main-high-street-banks
    The annual growth in the banks' net mortgage lending is 4.1%, substantially ahead of the 0.9% for the whole mortgage market in June.

    BBA statistics director, David Dooks said:
    "Gross mortgage lending remains stable, although demand for mortgages continues to be subdued. The greater availability of properties for sale and slowing house price growth have not yet fed through to increased house purchase approvals.


    "Consumer credit outstanding continues to reflect high repayments together with pressure on household finances and job uncertainty while companies are tending to retrench and reduce their bank borrowing."
    Nominal lending is up, real lending is down.

    The graph they print tells a story. Lending of all sorts is dropping. While people were saving more too, that is now flattening out. That suggests to me people can't or don't want to borrow but are happy that they have saved up enough of a buffer for the future on average.




    stats240810.jpg
    They're not conflicting.

    BBA is only the 6 major banks. It's only a partial figure.

    http://www.bba.org.uk/about-us/member-list
    Who do we represent?
    We represent over 200 banks. These member banks collectively provide the full range of banking and financial services and make up the world’s largest international banking centre, operating some 150 million accounts and contributing £50 billion annually to the UK economy. Our membership list can be found here: Member List
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    nearlynew wrote: »
    Excellent news.

    Cheaper houses have enabled more people to buy, hence the increase in approvals.

    Wrong again.

    House prices rose in July both on the Halifax and Land Registry indices.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Ah! but they were predicted to have fallen :D

    I stand completely corrected.

    HPI = Up on this report.
  • Pimperne1
    Pimperne1 Posts: 2,177 Forumite
    It used to be 100,000 approvals per month. The market's dead. Sensible people are waiting for the inevitable further price falls before committing.

    Yep, its been half this level and its been twice this level. 50k people buying during what is supposed to be a period of fear and trepidation is pretty impressive. What we have lost are the people who were just buying to better their homes with an eye on an increase in prices. Those that are selling now are made up of distressed sellers and some speculators but no doubt we shall get back to the 100k when the current "sellers strike" is over.
  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    Mortgage approvals numbered 48,722 in July, up from an upwardly revised 48,562 in June. Analysts had forecast a reading of 46,500.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7972742/UK-mortgage-approval-rise-but-total-lending-weakest-since-March.html

    48,562 - 48,722 = 160 (June 2010 - July 2010)

    48,562 - 108,000 = -59,438 (August 2007 - August 2010)
  • Pimperne1
    Pimperne1 Posts: 2,177 Forumite
    macaque wrote: »
    48,562 - 48,722 = 160 (June 2010 - July 2010)

    48,562 - 108,000 = -59,438 (August 2007 - August 2010)

    27,000 (BoE) - 48,562 - + 21,564 (Nov 2008 - August 2010) :p
  • maveli
    maveli Posts: 590 Forumite
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    1=2

    here is how you do that
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    maveli wrote: »
    1=2


    here is how you do that

    Simples, you're dividing by 0!
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    nearlynew wrote: »
    Excellent news.

    Cheaper houses have enabled more people to buy, hence the increase in approvals.

    It is a buying frenzy out there.
  • beecher2
    beecher2 Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    maveli wrote: »
    1=2

    here is how you do that

    Oh lord, I've had a flashback to Logic in Maths 1A thanks to you ;)
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