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  • Confused I would lay odds on that BryanAdams is American :) We don't use the word Attorney over here that often :D. I'm sure tech will sort him out and explain we are a british site.
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  • rhodod
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    Seems a right nightmare mate. Hopefully you will get it all sorted and get on with your life and your family

    Fingers crossed for you
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  • confused?
    confused? Posts: 121 Forumite
    edited 19 October 2010 at 12:23AM
    SOA Removed, BY Confused?
    You'll see most of my posts are between 00:00am and 03:00 am. this is when i sit down to eat my dinner and drink my cuppa.
    Any betwen these times are from the office
    I may get an early night tonight, 00:30am
    Best set my alarm for work, 06:30 am:eek:
  • rhodod wrote: »
    Seems a right nightmare mate. Hopefully you will get it all sorted and get on with your life and your family

    Fingers crossed for you

    Deffo nightmare mate just seem to get letters from people wanting to sell iva's
    Sometimes I wonder why I even bother going to work in a morning. Then I look at the cot at the side of my missus and it gives me a reason not to drive my car through lowells front window.....
    You'll see most of my posts are between 00:00am and 03:00 am. this is when i sit down to eat my dinner and drink my cuppa.
    Any betwen these times are from the office
    I may get an early night tonight, 00:30am
    Best set my alarm for work, 06:30 am:eek:
  • confused?
    confused? Posts: 121 Forumite
    edited 24 September 2010 at 11:49PM
    Confused I would lay odds on that BryanAdams is American :) We don't use the word Attorney over here that often :D. I'm sure tech will sort him out and explain we are a british site.

    Suppose the guys only tying to give his input. :-)

    I've managed to sort out that thingy (income jobby) you And miss spooky asked me to put on.

    Much appreciated for your help.

    We need 2 cars as I work miles away from home. Hence the high fuel costs.
    I also pay for everything as my missus gets v little income. We have phones for work purposes but can't claim it back.
    You'll see most of my posts are between 00:00am and 03:00 am. this is when i sit down to eat my dinner and drink my cuppa.
    Any betwen these times are from the office
    I may get an early night tonight, 00:30am
    Best set my alarm for work, 06:30 am:eek:
  • ampersand
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    edited 25 September 2010 at 8:13AM
    Bonjour confused -have pm'd you.
    Good to see your SOA posted - I know some of the hotshots here will be along soon to help[might ask fermi to have a look if poss. or point us in someone else's direction]

    An evil woman thought - wonder if BrianAdam45 is a spammer[newbie, 1st post], about to offer you b/r help at a price you CAN[and will,of course]refuse?:D

    Having just found your SOA, I see £400 and £100 for grox and child-related expenses. Does this mean nappies? If you can#t persuade yourselves to washable nappies, this stage won't last forever. For grox, there are loads of threads to help reduce that £400. You shouldn't need anything like that, while still being able to live well, with wine, with NICE.
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    There'll be more, but that's the first one that jumps out at me.
    Hope tigerfeet has successfully pm'd that other msers for you.

    Now, go and put kettle on - we'll all have a virtual cuppa with you.
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  • debtinfo
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    Have you got contacted the creditor to get their account of how the SD and petition was served yet, that is what you really need. As to your points about him not telling you who he was i would raise a couple of points, You say he wasent from the creditor the first time, it is quite normal for them to use a firm of process servers. The second time he said he was from the court, are you sure he didnt say he was delivering somethng from the court which if it was the petition is accurate. It is not supprising that there are communication issues if you were ushering him of your properties. Did you say you were the debtor, if you denied it then they would be within their rights to ask the court to serve by post rather than personally
    Hi, im Debtinfo, i am an ex insolvency examiner and over the years have personally dealt with thousands of bankruptcy cases.
    Please note that any views i put forth are not those of my former employer The Insolvency Service and do not constitute professional advice, you should always seek professional advice before entering insolvency proceedings.
  • confused?
    confused? Posts: 121 Forumite
    edited 19 October 2010 at 12:25AM
    ampersand wrote: »
    Bonjour confused -have pm'd you.
    Good to see your SOA posted - I know some of the hotshots here will be along soon to help[might ask fermi to have a look if poss. or point us in someone else's direction]

    An evil woman thought - wonder if BrianAdam45 is a spammer[newbie, 1st post], about to offer you b/r help at a price you CAN[and will,of course]refuse?:D

    Having just found your SOA, I see £400 and £100 for grox and child-related expenses. Does this mean nappies? If you can#t persuade yourselves to washable nappies, this stage won't last forever. For grox, there are loads of threads to help reduce that £400. You shouldn't need anything like that, while still being able to live well, with wine, with NICE.
    This comes weekly:
    mySupermarket.co.uk

    There'll be more, but that's the first one that jumps out at me.
    Hope tigerfeet has successfully pm'd that other msers for you.

    Now, go and put kettle on - we'll all have a virtual cuppa with you.
    I've brought my own Lapsang Souchong teabag with me:D

    Thanks ampersand,

    before this all happened believe it or not i didnt need cut backs im afraid, my missus was on stat maternity pay and i was making extra money doing other things to make life more comfortable, life was ok, we had just got our firts home, new family.

    The problem has only come about due to the bankruptsy petition / order, that i believe shouldnt have been made.
    i wasnt spiraling out of control or anything i was just living a couple of feet from the edge.

    in regards to the SOA above its not exactly right as some months i pay more and others i pay less depending on whats due.

    The thing is i need to put something forward to the OR to reduce the amount that they take each month for the IPA if the BR Annulment fails, as my previous SOA was obviously wrong. bearing in mind they wanted to take £500+ for 36 months, and the house.

    Please be aware....

    Ive never been able to live in the lap of luxury, we lived in poverty as children, i served in squaller and almost poverty during my army service from leaving school. ive been made redundant twice in the past 24 month.



    I have no objection with making cut backs, i really think this is a great idea in anyones finances, i dont think i have such an extravagant lifestyle to make such cutbacks in order to pay that amount to them for 3 years.



    The real crappy thing is, if this had not happened, this month i would have been able to clear my 10k overdraft leaving only the personal loan of 4k that i dont get charged intrest on.

    (bearing in mind the others should have been unenforcable).
    You'll see most of my posts are between 00:00am and 03:00 am. this is when i sit down to eat my dinner and drink my cuppa.
    Any betwen these times are from the office
    I may get an early night tonight, 00:30am
    Best set my alarm for work, 06:30 am:eek:
  • JCS1
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    confused? wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 2

    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1875
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 160
    Benefits................................ 120
    Other income............................ 129
    Total monthly income.................... 2284

    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 419
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 77
    Electricity............................. 75
    Gas..................................... 75
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 30
    Telephone (land line)................... 15
    Mobile phone............................ 70
    TV Licence.............................. 15 £13
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 20 No allowed, but add same amount to land line
    Internet Services....................... 15 Not allowed unless essential for work/school
    Groceries etc. ......................... 400
    Clothing................................ 40 £80
    Petrol/diesel........................... 400 High, keep receipts to prove
    Road tax................................ 34
    Car Insurance........................... 107 Per month? You state the 2 cars are worth £1,000 combined, but spending more than £1,200 a year on insurance?
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 120 High amount, probably be reduced
    Car parking............................. 30
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 100 What is this?
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 50 £30
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 10
    Buildings insurance..................... 15
    Contents insurance...................... 15
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 20 What is this for?
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 30 Not allowed
    Haircuts................................ 30 £25, £10 per adult, £5 per child
    Entertainment........................... 50 Not allowed
    Holiday................................. 50
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Pet foods (2 indoor cats)............... 30 Add to housekeeping
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2342


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 800
    House value (Gross)..................... 79995
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 1000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 81795


    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 71000....(419)......5<
    Council RTB Discount...........15000....(0)........0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 86000.....-.........-

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Hfc lowell 6+ years............1000......0.........0
    Hfc lowell 6+ years............1500......0.........0
    Halifax........................10000.....0.........0
    Hfo debt settled 2004..........3500......0.........0
    Ptrust.........................4000......0.........0
    Bhorse 6+ years ago............4500......0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........24500.....0.........-


    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 2,284
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,342
    Available for debt repayments........... -58
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -58

    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 81,795
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -86,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -24,500
    Net Assets.............................. -28,705

    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.

    Few comments added, wait until a few other people give their views too and then re-do and see what the figures come out like.
  • Right I've only got a couple of minutes before I have to be out the door, DH will go mental if he knows I've popped on here :o But wanted to see if you had put this on. Will check in again tomorrow sometime.
    confused? wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 2 As 1 car is your DW you don't put it down, it is her expense.

    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1875
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 160
    Benefits................................ 120
    Other income............................ 129
    Total monthly income.................... 2284

    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 419
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 77
    Electricity............................. 75
    Gas..................................... 75
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 30
    Telephone (land line)................... 15
    Mobile phone............................ 70 put with land line max £60
    TV Licence.............................. 15 £13
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 20 not allowed on your SoA must come from any surplus.
    Internet Services....................... 15 ditto unless needed for work or study
    Groceries etc. ......................... 400
    Clothing................................ 40
    Petrol/diesel........................... 400 Only put your petrol down as your DW is responsible for her own
    Road tax................................ 34 ditto
    Car Insurance........................... 107 ditto
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 120 £30
    Car parking............................. 30 yours or DW?
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 100 please break this down for me
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 50 £25
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 10 £20
    Buildings insurance..................... 15
    Contents insurance...................... 15
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 20 what is this?
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 30 most OR's won't allow
    Haircuts................................ 30 £10
    Entertainment........................... 50 not allowed
    Holiday................................. 50
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Pet foods (2 indoor cats)............... 30 put with groceries
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2342


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 800
    House value (Gross)..................... 79995
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 1000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 81795


    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 71000....(419)......5<
    Council RTB Discount...........15000....(0)........0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 86000.....-.........-

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Hfc lowell 6+ years............1000......0.........0
    Hfc lowell 6+ years............1500......0.........0
    Halifax........................10000.....0.........0
    Hfo debt settled 2004..........3500......0.........0
    Ptrust.........................4000......0.........0
    Bhorse 6+ years ago............4500......0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........24500.....0.........-


    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 2,284
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,342
    Available for debt repayments........... -58
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -58

    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 81,795
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -86,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -24,500
    Net Assets.............................. -28,705

    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.

    Have a play around with those.
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