Is Britain Now A Police state

WRINKLES

Some time ago i started a thread on CAG , i felt the CRA , s , were getting too powerfull , i told how they were linked with government agencies , dvla, dwap , nhs , local councills , and others , i said they acted like a government department , not just the three well known ones but the shadowy National hunter and others , maybe some secret ones we know nothing about , i feel todays news proves my fears were well founded , there will be those who will say if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear , History tells us when the state employs secret police to spy on us it will not stop , it will grow , they will know how much you drink , what you eat for breakfast , when you went shopping , when you got money from the cash machine , supermarket loyallty cards , tell a lot , cameras at the cash machine phone calls from your mobile , police cameras that log where you are by number plate , face recognition , and much more , put all this together , this is dangerous stuff , i could go on . What do you think .

thepedestrian

tell me where you live and your phone number and your national insurance number and then we can chat

handyman123_2

Hi WRINKLES are you referring to today's news that the Government are going to use Credit Reference Agency's to check the Bank details of Benefit Claimants to see if they are living beyond their means.

OOh Sugar that means that 95% of the British public will be in bother. The other 5% must be illegal so that doesn't matter.

Seriously though, (I am a fan of Spooks) it makes you wonder how a DCA can find you faster than MI5 can find an Al Kyhadda cell. The Home Office says it has lost the details of 1000's of Illegals, but the DVLA can sell my details on to a Clamping Company. I won't even mention RAF Menwith Hill and the Americans, OOps!:eek:

It won't be long before this lot of politico's have their nose in the trough, just like the last lot and the ones before. They will never reform the banking system untll they realise that you have to produce something tangible, like Steel, Ships, Technology that you can sell for real cash. Till then Money will talk and Bull Shine (like my post) will Walk.

Come the Revolution. Cheers, handy.

WRINKLES

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thepedestrian wrote: »

tell me where you live and your phone number and your national insurance number and then we can chat

tRY ASKING EXPERIAN .

WRINKLES

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handyman123 wrote: »

Hi WRINKLES are you referring to today's news that the Government are going to use Credit Reference Agency's to check the Bank details of Benefit Claimants to see if they are living beyond their means.

OOh Sugar that means that 95% of the British public will be in bother. The other 5% must be illegal so that doesn't matter.

Seriously though, (I am a fan of Spooks) it makes you wonder how a DCA can find you faster than MI5 can find an Al Kyhadda cell. The Home Office says it has lost the details of 1000's of Illegals, but the DVLA can sell my details on to a Clamping Company. I won't even mention RAF Menwith Hill and the Americans, OOps!:eek:

It won't be long before this lot of politico's have their nose in the trough, just like the last lot and the ones before. They will never reform the banking system untll they realise that you have to produce something tangible, like Steel, Ships, Technology that you can sell for real cash. Till then Money will talk and Bull Shine (like my post) will Walk.

Come the Revolution. Cheers, handy.

yES I AM MATE .

FTW

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It always was a police state. Successive governments just won't admit to the fact.

WRINKLES

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FTW wrote: »

It always was a police state. Successive governments just won't admit to the fact.

Now they have come out in the open , they will try to convince us it is for our own good .

handyman123_2

WRINKLES wrote: »

Now they have come out in the open , they will try to convince us it is for our own good .

No they will never come out in the open, the politicos think they run things, the big money only lets them think it. I have studied black propaganda (been involved in a bit of it as well). Its like an old conjuring trick keep them watching the left hand, nobody watches the right.

I know Para's who dressed as police during the miners strike. Police who dressed as miners. When New labour got in why didn't they blow the lid?

The Bankers run everything. I'm not paranoid I just look behind the headlines. How can the Government come down on the Financial institutions it has to go to cap in hand to borrow the money it needs to operate. If an organisation wanted to bring down a country it wouldn't need a bomb. In this Internet age Financial terrorism is the biggest threat!

Sorry kick my soap box away, Handy has said two much again.

handyman123_2

Hey WRINKLES I've just had a thought mate, (doesn't happen often) this is a site for Help and Support, not Doom and Gloom. I'm with you on this but shouldn't we take this to the discussions board or something. I wouldn't want Newby's and Old hands alike to get nightmares over this.

Off thread, you really a boxing coach, old mates that I have lost contact with include, Brendan Ingle, Bomber Graham, Brian Anderson. Now that's a blast from the past.

Cheers handy.

WRINKLES

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handyman123 wrote: »

Hey WRINKLES I've just had a thought mate, (doesn't happen often) this is a site for Help and Support, not Doom and Gloom. I'm with you on this but shouldn't we take this to the discussions board or something. I wouldn't want Newby's and Old hands alike to get nightmares over this.

Off thread, you really a boxing coach, old mates that I have lost contact with include, Brendan Ingle, Bomber Graham, Brian Anderson. Now that's a blast from the past.

Cheers handy.

Hi Handyman you are right , I just wanted people to start thinking about the implications of this , I have been trying to expose what CRA , s , do in the background , things that people never new , I have always said you should treat these organisations with extreme caution , treat them as if they were DCA , s , you should now treat them as if they were CID , Yes i am a boxing coach , i count among my friends , T ony Sibson , Ricky Hatton , Chris Pyatt , Tim Woods , Barry Maguigan , any many more .

greendollar

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I see the Police Association have had an advert banned which depicted that people who keep themselves to themselves , only use cash and keep their curtains drawn should be treated with suspicion , after a number of complaints .