Council houses should be allocated on fixed-term , NOT for life.

Batchy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10855996

Council houses should be allocated on fixed-term deals rather than being granted automatically "for life", David Cameron has said.
The prime minister added that it was important tenants had the opportunity to move to find work, requiring more flexibility in the system.
Those who succeed in getting better-paid jobs should be encouraged into the private housing sector, he said.
Labour said what was needed was "more secure homes, not less".
Mr Cameron said he expected a "big argument" over the proposals.
The prime minister said fixed-term deals for tenants would allow people to move on if their circumstances changed.
'Greater need' On a visit to the West Midlands, he was questioned by a mother of two teenagers, who said she had slept on a blow-up bed for two years because her council could not find her more space.
Mr Cameron said the government was investing in social housing, but added there was "a bigger question here", which was how to make sure people were able to move through the housing chain.
"At the moment we have a system very much where, if you get a council house or an affordable house, it is yours forever and in some cases people actually hand them down to their children.
"And actually it ought to be about need. Your need has got greater ... and yet there isn't really the opportunity to move."
Many councils ran "swap" schemes to match tenants, he said, adding: "But there is a question mark about whether, in future, should we be asking, actually, when you are given a council home, is it for a fixed period, because maybe in five or 10 years you will be doing a different job and be better paid and you won't need that home, you will be able to go into the private sector....
"So I think a more flexible system - that not everyone will support and will lead to quite a big argument... looking at a more flexible system, I think makes sense."
Any changes would apply to future, rather than current, tenants, Mr Cameron said.
'Long-term stability' Housing Minister Grant Shapps stressed that the government remained "committed to protecting the security of tenure and rights of those currently in social housing".
But he added: "We should also look at ways of how best to help the most vulnerable in our society, and how to tackle the record 1.8 million households that now on social housing lists"
Shadow housing minister John Healey said Mr Cameron's words confirmed his party's worst fears about Conservative plans.
"What is needed is more secure homes not less. Before the election Labour warned the Tories had a secret plan to get rid of secure tenancies and they accused us of scaremongering.
"Less than three months later we have the truth.
"This is so important because people highly value the affordable cost and long-term stability of secure tenancy."

Well that throws a right clanger in the works...
Looks like buying is the end of the ladder... no more gold plated houses. No more gold plated pensions, nor gold plated jobs...

You work hard, ...you get rewarded.
You play hard ...you get rewarded.
You do nothing... you get nothing.

I knew I voted tory for good reason!

Well done...

StevieJ

So are they going to recover all those Right to buy properties that were sold for a song and give them to someone more worthy

sjaypink

he was questioned by a mother of two teenagers, who said she had slept on a blow-up bed for two years because her council could not find her more space.

...."At the moment we have a system very much where, if you get a council house or an affordable house, it is yours forever and in some cases people actually hand them down to their children.
"And actually it ought to be about need. Your need has got greater ... and yet there isn't really the opportunity to move."

No. Bollocks. Fed up with this. She is on a blow up bed so she can try and convince the social / support worker she needs a 3 bed 'cos her girls/ boys don't get on- need seperate rooms. Yes she almost certaintly has a 2 bed.

You voted Tory so a single mum of 2 arguing teens can upgrade from a 2 bed to a 3 bed. Oh joy, thats very Conservative. You must be very pleased.

{On a similar note- anyone watch 'how the other half live' last night? 2 primary aged boys with parents in a 2bed flat. Eldest boy has to sleep on a sofa in the living because the boys are both light sleepers. !!!!!!? Deal with it! Or - radical idea here- how about the parents sleep in the living room huh? *rolls eyes smiley*. Poor kid }

Batchy wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10855996



Well that throws a right clanger in the works...
Looks like buying is the end of the ladder... no more gold plated houses. No more gold plated pensions, nor gold plated jobs...

You work hard, ...you get rewarded....

You mean you get pushed into private rent- so your hard earned an pay the LLS BLT mortgage?

Batchy wrote: »

You play hard ...you get rewarded....

eh?

Batchy wrote: »

You do nothing... you get nothing....

eh?

Batchy wrote: »

I knew I voted tory for good reason!

Well done...

eeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrr, yeah....

diable

I think this is another repost...........

Shakethedisease

Mr Cameron said the government was investing in social housing,

News to me. Where have they said that ?

Any changes would apply to future, rather than current, tenants, Mr Cameron said.

Aaah. Slight problem there then, since waiting lists for new council house tenants are 5-10 years long in places.

ie.. nothing much changes.

StevieJ

Shakethedisease wrote: »

News to me. Where have they said that ?



Aaah. Slight problem there then, since waiting lists for new council house tenants are 5-10 years long in places.

ie.. nothing much changes.

Yes! more bullsh1t from the Coalition

robin_banks

Batchy wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10855996



Well that throws a right clanger in the works...
Looks like buying is the end of the ladder... no more gold plated houses. No more gold plated pensions, nor gold plated jobs...

You work hard, ...you get rewarded.
You play hard ...you get rewarded.
You do nothing... you get nothing.

I knew I voted tory for good reason!

Well done...

Could just as easily go the other way, you get a job you lose your house and have to privately rent. In this instance a family not in receipt of HB may have to claim HB whilst privately renting.

Throw in the complication of school age kids and this could be a recipe for disaster.

Cameron's made apoint and to fair a good one. There needs to be an honest debate re; housing. But he's either missing a few points or is sidestepping a good few issues.

ILW

Sorry, but if you think your council place isn't big enough to house your kids, either earn enough to buy a bigger place or don't have the kids in the first place.

nomoreboomandbust

Shakethedisease wrote: »

News to me. Where have they said that ?



Aaah. Slight problem there then, since waiting lists for new council house tenants are 5-10 years long in places.

Not if you are a Somalian with 10 kids in tow, right to the front of the queue:(

robin_banks

nomoreboomandbust wrote: »

Shakethedisease wrote: »

News to me. Where have they said that ?



Aaah. Slight problem there then, since waiting lists for new council house tenants are 5-10 years long in places.

Not if you are a Somalian with 10 kids in tow, right to the front of the queue:(

Yet a Somalian would have no recourse to public funds, including council housing.

Now if you're talking about emergency housing..........

Very different things.

nomoreboomandbust

[QUOTE=robin banks;35369421

Yet a Somalian would have no recourse to public funds, including council housing.

Now if you're talking about emergency housing..........

Very different things.[/QUOTE]

Can you please expand on this

So who provides this emergency housing and where do the funds come from ?- surely it must be the same thing at the end of the day- public funds