Going from part-time to full-time.

74jax

If I take a full time position at work where I currently work part-time, do I need to inform the CSA of this?

I am the parent with care, and am receiving CSA from CSA1.

Thanks.

DUTR

You are supposed to inform them of any changes, however due to the fact many have looked at this and not replied , I very much suspect if you inform them, then your NRP in question may have his CS liability reduced.
This is not the usual practice and you should be doing everything in your power to maximise NRP contributions, whilst reducing contact.
Anyways I have not seen any reports of anyone getting 'done' by the CSA for not informing them about changing of circumstances, which may benefit the other party.

bdt1

You should inform CSA of your change in circumstances, on CS1 if you will still receive working tax credits then they won't count your income anyway - you will be deemed as receiving benefits which cannot be used in the assessment.

If however working full-time takes you off working tax credits then I would ask Kelloggs how much this will affect your CS from NRP - she will be able to tell you.

II'm a NRPP & PWC and in my case I have always updated CSA when things change, if you ever over next few years end up at Tribunal (for whatever reason) and you have not provided full updates then this could land you in trouble

74jax

bdt1 wrote: »

You should inform CSA of your change in circumstances, on CS1 if you will still receive working tax credits then they won't count your income anyway - you will be deemed as receiving benefits which cannot be used in the assessment. I'll call them in 2 weeks when my contract changes and let them know.

If however working full-time takes you off working tax credits then I would ask Kelloggs how much this will affect your CS from NRP - she will be able to tell you. No benefits are received.

II'm a NRPP & PWC and in my case I have always updated CSA when things change, if you ever over next few years end up at Tribunal (for whatever reason) and you have not provided full updates then this could land you in trouble Thanks, myself and ex have always just waited for the 2 year update to inform of changes, mainly his income etc, but will inform them of this change when it happens.[/QUOTE]

DUTR wrote: »

You are supposed to inform them of any changes, however due to the fact many have looked at this and not replied , I very much suspect if you inform them, then your NRP in question may have his CS liability reduced. But surely if it's supposed to be reduced then people would still inform them?

This is not the usual practice and you should be doing everything in your power to maximise NRP contributions, whilst reducing contact.
Anyways I have not seen any reports of anyone getting 'done' by the CSA for not informing them about changing of circumstances, which may benefit the other party.

Thanks for the replies. My ex and I are on very good terms regarding our daughter, he has never failed to pay and I even send him £150 back of the CSA he pays as he went on to have 2 further children and when we both asked for this to be taken into account, for some reason as we're on CSA1, the amount he paid me didn't reduce, it increased. Very unfair and most bizzare.

As I'm not working full time yet, i'll inform them when I am which is in 2 weeks. I certainly wouldn't want to be taking more money from my ex just because I can. I'm not sure what example that would set our daughter.

skibadee

74jax wrote: »

bdt1 wrote: »

You should inform CSA of your change in circumstances, on CS1 if you will still receive working tax credits then they won't count your income anyway - you will be deemed as receiving benefits which cannot be used in the assessment. I'll call them in 2 weeks when my contract changes and let them know.

If however working full-time takes you off working tax credits then I would ask Kelloggs how much this will affect your CS from NRP - she will be able to tell you. No benefits are received.

II'm a NRPP & PWC and in my case I have always updated CSA when things change, if you ever over next few years end up at Tribunal (for whatever reason) and you have not provided full updates then this could land you in trouble Thanks, myself and ex have always just waited for the 2 year update to inform of changes, mainly his income etc, but will inform them of this change when it happens.[/QUOTE]



Thanks for the replies. My ex and I are on very good terms regarding our daughter, he has never failed to pay and I even send him £150 back of the CSA he pays as he went on to have 2 further children and when we both asked for this to be taken into account, for some reason as we're on CSA1, the amount he paid me didn't reduce, it increased. Very unfair and most bizzare.

As I'm not working full time yet, i'll inform them when I am which is in 2 weeks. I certainly wouldn't want to be taking more money from my ex just because I can. I'm not sure what example that would set our daughter.

If only all PWC were as amicable as you life would be so much more simple and easier for everyone concerned. Your daughter is very lucky to have such understandng parents.

skibadee

''This is not the usual practice and you should be doing everything in your power to maximise NRP contributions, whilst reducing contact''

Can I ask why DUTR?

bdt1

74jax wrote: »

bdt1 wrote: »

You should inform CSA of your change in circumstances, on CS1 if you will still receive working tax credits then they won't count your income anyway - you will be deemed as receiving benefits which cannot be used in the assessment. I'll call them in 2 weeks when my contract changes and let them know.

If however working full-time takes you off working tax credits then I would ask Kelloggs how much this will affect your CS from NRP - she will be able to tell you. No benefits are received.

QUOTE]

Ok, just one last thing please can I ask you to make sure that any change of circs ie your employment change to full-time is put in writing to CSA sent recorded delivery and that you print off the signature/barcode from Royal Mail. Just CSA are well known for things going missing!!

Well done, it's lovely to hear 2 parents keeping on good terms, and not trying to score Brownie points ( or money) from each other - total refreshing and I so wish our scenario with my hubs ex was similar - alas total opposite!!

74jax

skibadee wrote: »

''This is not the usual practice and you should be doing everything in your power to maximise NRP contributions, whilst reducing contact''

Can I ask why DUTR?

Hhmm it would be interesting to know.

I've called CSA about 4 times asking to be changed from CSA1 to CSA2 so that the payments better reflect my ex's situation with my daughter's half brother & sister. All the times I've called I've been made to feel very small and bad that I would not want the best for my daughter, why would I take less money from my ex? have I considered the effect this would have on my daughter? I was only told on my last call the only way to do this would be to come out of CSA and wait 13 weeks, so that is why my ex and I came to agreement of me sending money back to him.

But I have to say the CSA people I spoke to did nothing to help the agreement between my ex and I and only made me feel that I was silly person for taking money from my daughter and if anything I should try for more when I know he's had payrises etc! Never mind the fact she loves her half brother and sister and my ex and his wife treat our daughter no different to their children together. I'd much rather that than me and her dad be on a constant battleground.

Marisco

Can I just say 74jax, that you are a wonderful example of how people should behave when breakups occur. If only everyone was like this, it would save so much heartache and trouble. If only my oh's ex wife had behaved like you it would have saved us, and more to the point his kids, years of misery with her grasping ways and bitterness. I salute you;)

PlayingHardball

74jax,
You could always close the CSA1 case, wait the 13 weeks (agree with your ex to continue to pay you during this time by standing order, to prove it was paid) and then reopen on CSA2. As you say, it would be a better deal for the ex.

I agree with the post previous to this, you are a good example of how people should behave in relation to children when a couple splits up. And EQUALLY important, your ex has been a good example too. Not only has he continued to financially support your daughter together, he has integrated her very lovingly into his second family.

Sadly for my daughter, this didn't happen when my ex found a new partner (who came with a ready made daughter, funny enough, almost the same age as our daughter). Dad has turned his back on her financially, and more importantly emotionally. He doesn't see her and doesn't pay towards her.

So, I applaud BOTH you and your ex, you sound like fantastic parents!

DX2

One does have to wonder if things are so amicable why are you using the CSA? Why not close the case with the CSA and set up a private agreement?