How does lieu time work?

Buggles

Recently at work we've been doing a lot of extra hours, but will only be paid our contracted hours and the extra hours will be given to us as time in lieu.

I've never had this before, so I'm not sure how it works. I'm currently at 50 hours of time owing.

I work 16 hours basic a week.

When I (eventually) get these hours back, will I lose money? As in, say I worked 12 hours one week and had 4 hours off as time owing, do I only get paid for those 12 hours?

If that is the case, then I cannot afford my rent so I might as well just give up those 50 hours.

I thought, when I agreed to the extra hours, that you still get your basic contracted hours, even if you only work 12 hours one week but my manager says otherwise.

nimbo

no you would get paid for 16 hrs the week that you did 50 hrs over time.

then the next week you would work 12hrs - take 4 hrs lieu time, and get paid for 16.

you would then have 46 hrs leiu time.

then the next week you would work 12hrs - take 4 hrs lieu time, and get paid for 16.

you would then have 42 hrs leiu time.

this would go on until you had no time owing... the idea is that they don't pay you for the Over time you worked, they give you time back instead...

Buggles

So I still get my basic pay, but do less hours? That is what I am trying to establish.

Also, is there a "rule" on how long you have to use up lieu time, as my manager still hasnt allocated us any time off yet and I'm getting very annoyed. These 50 hours have been gained over a 2 month period.

SarEl

Or, alternatively, if your lieu time scheme allows it, you might take it in chunks, so that you can have "days off" with pay or even a "week off" with pay. Speak to your employer and ask what rules they have about how you can take it. When you are working 16 hours basic you don't get a lot of holiday entitlement, and they might let you "bank" this time as extra "holiday". There are usually rules about how much time you can take back at one time, and notice to do it (so you can't just turn up for 12 hours and decide to take the other 4 as lieu time on the spot) - but you might find this time very useful.

SarEl

Buggles wrote: »

So I still get my basic pay, but do less hours? That is what I am trying to establish.

Also, is there a "rule" on how long you have to use up lieu time, as my manager still hasnt allocated us any time off yet and I'm getting very annoyed. These 50 hours have been gained over a 2 month period.

Sorry - my post crossed iwth your. But the only rules are those set by the employer, so ask.

getmore4less

SarEl wrote: »

Or, alternatively, if your lieu time scheme allows it, you might take it in chunks, so that you can have "days off" with pay or even a "week off" with pay. Speak to your employer and ask what rules they have about how you can take it. When you are working 16 hours basic you don't get a lot of holiday entitlement, and they might let you "bank" this time as extra "holiday". There are usually rules about how much time you can take back at one time, and notice to do it (so you can't just turn up for 12 hours and decide to take the other 4 as lieu time on the spot) - but you might find this time very useful.

Umm depends how you look at it, in hours less but in time off it is the same days/weeks as anyone else, you should still get the 5.6 weeks min statutory holidays.


Definately get the TOL rules written up so everyone knows what they are or you could find the manager just makes something up as they go along.

bap98189

As others have said, there are no hard and fast rules about when you are allowed to take TOIL, but normally it is taken at a time agreed with your manager. How flexible your employer is about this, you will have to find out.

If you have run up 50 hours TOIL and only work 16 hours a week, then you are owed about 3 weeks off. You definitely need to talk to your manager, and take some of it, before it gets out of hand. In many workplaces, staff are only allowed to run up 1 or 2 days TOIL before it has to be taken. This is so that you don't get into the situation you are in where you are owed a mammoth amount of time off.

The other option is to agree to be paid instead of taking the TOIL, but there is no requirement for your employer to agree to this. Talk to them and get something agreed quickly before you build up any more time.

SarEl

getmore4less wrote: »

Umm depends how you look at it, in hours less but in time off it is the same days/weeks as anyone else, you should still get the 5.6 weeks min statutory holidays.


Definately get the TOL rules written up so everyone knows what they are or you could find the manager just makes something up as they go along.

True - but I was thinking in terms of the fact that since most part-time staff are women, and often women with school age children (or younger), then a few "extra weeks" often comes in handy! I know a lot of women struggle to be able to get paid time off for all those little extras that children seem to run up - school holidays, sickness, etc. So if the employer is flexible, as little leeway with TOIL can come in very handy.

eamon

It is highly likely that you won't get your time back. You have gained far too much and imho it is already out of control.
For this very reason I hate TOIL. (Unless you have a trustworthy employer)

surreysaver

SarEl wrote: »

I know a lot of women struggle to be able to get paid time off for all those little extras that children seem to run up - school holidays, sickness, etc.

Its easier for women than it is for men!

paulwf

Sounds like a classic case of head office not giving the manager the staffing allowance that is obviously required to run the store. TBH as it is min wage and so much is owed (over 3 weeks) they should really just pay you a lump some to clear it. As it is you'll be getting 9 weeks holiday this year which is a bit OTT for a 16 hour a week job.

I think you're the one I said this to before OP...time to get another job, you now have plenty of allowance to use for interviews