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Morrisons;hot potatoes!

I sent the youth down to fetch some new pots and when he arrived home he had paid 97p per pound(over£2/kg).I challenged this last sat and I discovered the pots did not not have a ticket to show price.I spoke to the produce manager who apologised saying that there was a staff shortage.He also claimed Morrisons were not breaking the law by failing to show the price,I feel it is scandalous.I went to Netto and bought 2.5 kg at £2.49-and they were from Cornwall.

Is there a law requiring shops to display the price of loose potatoes?
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  • BLT_2
    BLT_2 Posts: 1,307 Forumite
    gnvqsos wrote: »
    I sent the youth down to fetch some new pots and when he arrived home he had paid 97p per pound(over£2/kg).I challenged this last sat and I discovered the pots did not not have a ticket to show price.I spoke to the produce manager who apologised saying that there was a staff shortage.He also claimed Morrisons were not breaking the law by failing to show the price,I feel it is scandalous.I went to Netto and bought 2.5 kg at £2.49-and they were from Cornwall.

    Is there a law requiring shops to display the price of loose potatoes?

    Nope, neither apparently is there a law against having far too much time on your hands :rotfl:
  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    I don't think shops have to display the prices, but I may be wrong.

    However, if they deliberately omit the price to mislead consumers then it is against the law.

    For example, if they have two stands of potatoes and the potatoes in each stand look the same. The potatoes in one stand cost 50p/kg and the potatoes in the other stand cost £2/kg but don't have a price.

    It could be argued that the shop was trying to mislead consumers into buying the £2/kg ones because they "look" as if they will be around 50p/kg.

    But I don't think a stand on it's own would necessarily be breaking the law (as in trying to mislead the consumer). After all, you get told the price before you actually buy it, and have the right to refuse.
  • Lost2
    Lost2 Posts: 15,651 Forumite
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    Yes they are legally obliged by law to display there prices
    the same as pubs and restraints you should
    report them to trading standards
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  • zenseeker
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    Lost2 wrote: »
    Yes they are legally obliged by law to display there prices
    the same as pubs and restraints you should
    report them to trading standards

    Calm down, there can be many reasons why the price tag was missing, as long as it is reported and they do something about it quickly that's all that really matters. There are always staff around to ask the price of an unmarked product in the mean time.
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  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    Lost2 wrote: »
    Yes they are legally obliged by law to display there prices
    the same as pubs and restraints you should
    report them to trading standards

    I don't think it's that simple.

    We are talking about potatoes, and we don't know if they were bought loose, from bulk, or pre-packed.

    If they were loose then it would be impossible to display the price, you could only display the unit price. i.e. £2 per kilo.

    The The Price Marking Order 2004 says
    Obligation to indicate selling price
    4. - (1) Subject to paragraph (2) and articles 9 and 10, where a trader indicates that any product is or may be for sale to a consumer, he shall indicate the selling price of that product in accordance with the provisions of this Order.

    (2) The requirement in paragraph (1) above shall not apply in respect of:

      (a) products sold from bulk; or (b) an advertisement for a product.

    Which means, if they are sold from bulk you don't have to display the selling price, but it also says
    "selling price" means the final price for a unit of a product, or a given quantity of a product, including VAT and all other taxes;

    So I take that to mean, if you sell something from bulk, such as loose potatoes, you don't have to display the actual price the customer will pay, and the selling price is the final unit price. So, you can't diplay the price a customer will pay for loose potatoes, because you don't know how many they will pick up/put into the bag. And you don't have to display the unit price, such as £2 per kilo.

    So you don't have to display the price for loose potatoes.

    You would have to display the price if they were pre-packed.
  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    And just to make it more complicated.
    SCHEDULE 2Article 5(3)


    PRODUCTS IN RESPECT OF WHICH A TRADER IS EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO UNIT PRICE

    1. Any product which is offered by traders to consumers by means of an advertisement which is:

      (a) purely aural; (b) broadcast on television; (c) shown at a cinema; or (d) inside a small shop.
    2. Any product the price of which has been reduced from the usual price at which it is sold, on account of:


      (a) its damaged condition; or (b) the danger of its deterioration.
    3. Any product which comprises an assortment of different items sold in a single package.

    4. Any product the unit price of which is 0.0p as a result of article 12 (Decimal places and rounding of unit prices) of this Order.

    So, looking at paragraph 2. They don't have to show the unit price if the product has been reduced in price because it is damaged or in danger of deterioration.

    I'm sure you can find many "Authorities" which have stated publicly that any veg starts deteriorating as soon as it is harvested. So any potato in a shop is in danger of deteriorating.

    Not to mention the fact that the producer has printed a short use by date on the sack.
  • chelms38
    chelms38 Posts: 425 Forumite
    When I go round my local M's there are plenty of items without a price.
  • gnvqsos
    gnvqsos Posts: 291 Forumite
    BLT wrote: »
    Nope, neither apparently is there a law against having far too much time on your hands :rotfl:
    Is this comment for my eyes and can you remove the ambiguity by elaborating?I was hoping to save someone else the hassle and expense
    John
  • gnvqsos
    gnvqsos Posts: 291 Forumite
    I don't think it's that simple.

    We are talking about potatoes, and we don't know if they were bought loose, from bulk, or pre-packed.

    If they were loose then it would be impossible to display the price, you could only display the unit price. i.e. £2 per kilo.

    The The Price Marking Order 2004 says



    Which means, if they are sold from bulk you don't have to display the selling price, but it also says



    So I take that to mean, if you sell something from bulk, such as loose potatoes, you don't have to display the actual price the customer will pay, and the selling price is the final unit price. So, you can't diplay the price a customer will pay for loose potatoes, because you don't know how many they will pick up/put into the bag. And you don't have to display the unit price, such as £2 per kilo.

    So you don't have to display the price for loose potatoes.

    You would have to display the price if they were pre-packed.

    They were lose pots Joe
  • calleyw
    calleyw Posts: 9,896 Forumite
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    You sent a young adult (you don't say male or female or what age) you told them to get potatoes which they duly did.

    It is doubtful even if the prices where displayed that would have looked for a price they got what you wanted.

    Personally I never buy anything if I can't see the price. So would have never picked them up in first place. And I suspect a lot of people would do the same.

    Maybe morrisons should have a SEL on display. But you chose not to go and send someone else who was doing you a favour. And now you are blaming morrisons. Did you even tell the "youth" your words not mine not to get them if they where X or Y price.

    Yours

    Calley
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