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My H2B has just come home with the news that his firm are telling everyone on Monday that they have to take a 5% pay cut. :eek:

He has a contract so can this be done if he doesn't agree???

Does anyone know what happens next???

We are getting married in October this year and are really counting on his wages to prop up the budget
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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    In short yes. They need to go about it the right way but if the business can show a proper business reason for this then come an ET they will be able to show why they needed to enforce the cut.

    They are probably doing this so not to make someone redundant is my guess

    Talk to ACAS to see what they say as well.
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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    The only time they cannot change the money is if it takes him below NMW
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    Reasons why the contract can be changed on the link below

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/EmploymentContractsAndConditions/DG_10028079

    What you can do if you disagree with the changes

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/EmploymentContractsAndConditions/DG_10037116

    Unless the bosses are doing it when the business is still doing well I would personally think hard about kicking up a fuss. However I would ask that the bosses have a clause that it is reviewed on a 6 monthly basis and if the company is doing better that the pay is reviewed back to the normal scale
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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  • chelbel1981
    chelbel1981 Posts: 1,029 Forumite
    In short yes. They need to go about it the right way but if the business can show a proper business reason for this then come an ET they will be able to show why they needed to enforce the cut.

    They are probably doing this so not to make someone redundant is my guess

    Talk to ACAS to see what they say as well.

    Thanks for replying, what does ET mean.

    He's in the building trade.

    What happens if he doesn't agree will they make him redundant???

    The only time they cannot change the money is if it takes him below NMW

    It won't take him below
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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    ET= Employment tribunal

    Have a read of those links, call ACAS and make your decision from there but as you know the building industry is not in the greatest of shapes at the moment
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  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    Does anyone know what happens next???

    Yes. The advice you have had is correct - employers are doing this in many places and getting away with it, as they justify the cut as an alternative to laying people off. Basically, if someone agrees they continue to be employed. If someone does not agree the employer must serve them notice and offer them a new contract to run from the day after the old one finishes. If they refuse the new contract they are deemed to have resigned (so no refundancy pay is due). Provided that the employer does this then any claim for unfair dismissal is unlikely (in other words, it isn't definite, but probable) to succeed. This is especially the case if a large number of the other staff accept it. But providing the employer follows the correct process, tribunals have upheld much larger pay cuts in the last year or so. The employers position is virtually unassailable if they also offer a review, as has been suggested above.
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