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Teenage son been offered holiday work what does he need?

Hi my 14 yr old son is on work experience at the moment an they are so impressed with him that he has been offered a holiday job. Do we need to get a NI number or permit for him? He will be helping the maintainance team at a local private school.
Also what sort of wage would be acceptable?

Any tips would be most welcome.

TIA

Dx

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  • whitewing
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    Info here:

    http://www.connexions-direct.com/index.cfm?pid=75&catalogueContentID=120&render=detailedArticle

    I would have thought that something around the min wage for a 16 year old? I'd struggle to pay less that that for anyone who worked for me (with the added advantage that his wage expectations could go up when the min wage goes up)
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  • whitewing
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    Oh this does say there is now a minimum apprentice wage:

    http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/rewards/minimum_wage.htm
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    whitewing wrote: »
    Info here:

    http://www.connexions-direct.com/index.cfm?pid=75&catalogueContentID=120&render=detailedArticle

    I would have thought that something around the min wage for a 16 year old? I'd struggle to pay less that that for anyone who worked for me (with the added advantage that his wage expectations could go up when the min wage goes up)


    Thanks. It says that they need to apply for a work permit but doesn't say where to get one from. Do you have any idea?

    TIA

    Dx
  • System
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    xxdeebeexx wrote: »
    Thanks. It says that they need to apply for a work permit but doesn't say where to get one from. Do you have any idea?
    This is one page that I found. It appears that they should be obtainable from your county council or similar
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  • november
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    Local council - usually the education department :)

    Here's the direct gov page http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ParentsRights/DG_4002945
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  • Valli
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    Local education office does ours...
    try your county council

    (assuming England here btw)
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  • dawnybabes
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    The employer needs to fill the work permit form in. A parent needs to sign it.

    National Minimum Wage (NMW)

    The National Minimum Wage is £4.83 an hour for 18 to 21 year olds and £5.80 an hour for 22 year olds and over. Employees aged 16 or 17 (who are older than Mandatory School Leaving Age) are entitled to £3.57 an hour. Those who are of compulsory school age are not entitled to the NMW.
    Apprentices under the age of 19 are not entitled to the National Minimum Wage, and neither are apprentices who are 19 or over during the first 12 months of their apprenticeship.


    During school holidays, 14 year olds may work a maximum of 25 hours per week, with a maximum of 5 hours on weekdays and Saturdays, and 2 hours on Sundays. 15 year olds may work a maximum of 35 hours per week, with a maximum of 8 hours on weekdays and Saturdays, and 2 hours on a Sunday.
    Each year, 14 and 15 year olds must take at least two weeks off work during the school holidays. For more information, contact the education department at your local council.
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  • dawnybabes
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    Ooh just found this as well :

    Industrial undertakings
    As well as the rule restricting children to light work
    the employment of children under the school
    leaving age in industrial undertakings is forbidden.
    ‘Industrial undertakings’ includes:
    • mines and quarries;
    • any manufacturing;
    • construction or repair of buildings, roads etc; and
    • transport of passengers or goods, including
    handling goods in a warehouse.
    The relevant Act forbids employment in industrial
    undertakings rather than forbidding any particular
    type of employment. So employment in, for
    example, the office of a road haulage firm would
    be forbidden because the road haulage firm would
    be an industrial undertaking. There is however
    an exception for family undertakings. A child
    can be employed in an industrial undertaking if
    it is an undertaking where only members of the
    same family are employed, although if a child is
    employed in such an undertaking the child must,
    in DCSF’s view, only be employed to d


    I'd check it out as he might not be able to work for them .....

    This was off : http://publications.everychildmatters.gov.uk/eOrderingDownload/Child_employment09.pdf (page 9)
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  • xxdeebeexx
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    dawnybabes wrote: »
    Ooh just found this as well :
    Industrial undertakings
    As well as the rule restricting children to light work
    the employment of children under the school
    leaving age in industrial undertakings is forbidden.
    ‘Industrial undertakings’ includes:
    • mines and quarries;
    • any manufacturing;
    • construction or repair of buildings, roads etc; and
    • transport of passengers or goods, including
    handling goods in a warehouse.
    The relevant Act forbids employment in industrial
    undertakings rather than forbidding any particular
    type of employment. So employment in, for
    example, the office of a road haulage firm would
    be forbidden because the road haulage firm would
    be an industrial undertaking. There is however
    an exception for family undertakings. A child
    can be employed in an industrial undertaking if
    it is an undertaking where only members of the
    same family are employed, although if a child is
    employed in such an undertaking the child must,
    in DCSF’s view, only be employed to d


    I'd check it out as he might not be able to work for them .....

    This was off : http://publications.everychildmatters.gov.uk/eOrderingDownload/Child_employment09.pdf (page 9)



    Wow where on earth did you find this!!!!

    It's just what I needed. I will check with the local authority on Monday, Thanks for your help everyone.

    Dx
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