Breeding for Benefits

vivatifosi

A message for lir,

I know you were tracking the fortunes of large solicitors firms. Did you see the news re Halliwells possibly entering administration if they can't stump up the funds they owe? See:
http://www.debtmanagementtoday.co.uk/newsstory?id=796&type=newsfeature&title=well_known_solicitors_firm_20m_in_debt_and_facing_administration

ETA: sorry peeps, put this on the thread, thought it was the nice people one. Apologies for breaking up the flow for something out of context, I'll get my glasses out next time.

Generali

Lotus-eater wrote: »

It's interesting to see other peoples views, I always take the rubbish out in my dressing gown and the neighbours always wave hello, god knows what they think of me. :shocked:

You should move over here, I regularly see people in the supermarket in their pyjamas. I saw a particularly fetching set on a rather large 30 y/o woman a few months back: flannelette striped pyjamas, white dressing gown and bunny rabbit slippers!

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

A message for lir,

I know you were tracking the fortunes of large solicitors firms. Did you see the news re Halliwells possibly entering administration if they can't stump up the funds they owe? See:
http://www.debtmanagementtoday.co.uk/newsstory?id=796&type=newsfeature&title=well_known_solicitors_firm_20m_in_debt_and_facing_administration

Its been interesting to watch. The outsourcing stories too, and mergers. My online chart got ''spotted'' so had to stop but its been really very interesting to monitor privately.

worried_jim

Makes me cry with frustration. There are loads of jobs available, everyday I deal with over 1000 eastern Europeans who have just arrived in the UK and with 48 hours most of them have jobs, places to live and bank accounts. There is plenty of agricultural work in Stratford upon Avon, Cambridgeshire and Kent. Morrison's depot in Bradford is hiring as is the JJB and Next warehouse in Barnsley. Tulip meats in South Wales. The fish factory in Aberdeen. I know this as 100's of these people start with these companies every month. I believe these companies actively recruit from overseas as the work force in the UK (or maybe that should be workshy force) are just useless. A company at the end of the road has been trying to recruit HGV driver's since Christmas and are still looking. Where I work we have just increased the dept by 14 new starters in one go, there was only 42 to begin with, that's a big increase.
What's the point in working when your benefits are so cushy. £2k on Christmas, I haven't spent £2k on Christmas in the last 10 years and I work full time and up until recently I was working a part time job as well in the evenings for 2 years delivering pizza to these very people in this film who would regularly spend more in one night on takeaway then I could afford to spend all week on groceries and they were all on benefits (and drugs), it was the most soul destroying thing I have ever done. I hope to God that our new Government has the cajones to put a stop to this. Rant over...

macaque_2

worried_jim wrote: »

Makes me cry with frustration. There are loads of jobs available, everyday I deal with over 1000 eastern Europeans who have just arrived in the UK and with 48 hours most of them have jobs, places to live and bank accounts. There is plenty of agricultural work in Stratford upon Avon, Cambridgeshire and Kent. Morrison's depot in Bradford is hiring as is the JJB and Next warehouse in Barnsley. Tulip meats in South Wales. The fish factory in Aberdeen. I know this as 100's of these people start with these companies every month. I believe these companies actively recruit from overseas as the work force in the UK (or maybe that should be workshy force) are just useless. A company at the end of the road has been trying to recruit HGV driver's since Christmas and are still looking. Where I work we have just increased the dept by 14 new starters in one go, there was only 42 to begin with, that's a big increase.
What's the point in working when your benefits are so cushy. £2k on Christmas, I haven't spent £2k on Christmas in the last 10 years and I work full time and up until recently I was working a part time job as well in the evenings for 2 years delivering pizza to these very people in this film who would regularly spend more in one night on takeaway then I could afford to spend all week on groceries and they were all on benefits (and drugs), it was the most soul destroying thing I have ever done. I hope to God that our new Government has the cajones to put a stop to this. Rant over...

'everyday I deal with'

But you wouldn't dream of doing these kinds of job yourself? Am I right? Of course I am.

leveller2911

macaque wrote: »

'everyday I deal with'

But you wouldn't dream of doing these kinds of job yourself? Am I right? Of course I am.

Why wouldn't he? Its called self respect ......;)

No reason not to take a job at any of those companies Worried Jim mentioned and at the same time either taking further education courses or looking for another job whilst working,earning and paying into the system...Anything to give yourself and family a better standard of living and hopefully making life that little bit easier...

If the Government had b*lls they would cut all scroungers benefits and they would be forced to comply with Society.The reason they don't is simple: 1/ Votes and 2/ crime increases..
I have a lot of respect for people working meanial jobs and absolutely none for long term dolite,workshy scum.....

Question : Does Cajones mean the same as Balls?...

treliac

worried_jim wrote: »

Makes me cry with frustration. There are loads of jobs available, everyday I deal with over 1000 eastern Europeans who have just arrived in the UK and with 48 hours most of them have jobs, places to live and bank accounts. There is plenty of agricultural work in Stratford upon Avon, Cambridgeshire and Kent. Morrison's depot in Bradford is hiring as is the JJB and Next warehouse in Barnsley. Tulip meats in South Wales. The fish factory in Aberdeen. I know this as 100's of these people start with these companies every month. I believe these companies actively recruit from overseas as the work force in the UK (or maybe that should be workshy force) are just useless. A company at the end of the road has been trying to recruit HGV driver's since Christmas and are still looking. Where I work we have just increased the dept by 14 new starters in one go, there was only 42 to begin with, that's a big increase.
What's the point in working when your benefits are so cushy. £2k on Christmas, I haven't spent £2k on Christmas in the last 10 years and I work full time and up until recently I was working a part time job as well in the evenings for 2 years delivering pizza to these very people in this film who would regularly spend more in one night on takeaway then I could afford to spend all week on groceries and they were all on benefits (and drugs), it was the most soul destroying thing I have ever done. I hope to God that our new Government has the cajones to put a stop to this. Rant over...

macaque wrote: »

'everyday I deal with'

But you wouldn't dream of doing these kinds of job yourself? Am I right? Of course I am.

What a stupid thing to say macaque. Or don't you think you're being thoroughly insulting to the many decent and hardworking warehouse, shop, factory workers and lorry drivers out there?

macaque_2

treliac wrote: »

What a stupid thing to say macaque. Or don't you think you're being thoroughly insulting to the many decent and hardworking warehouse, shop, factory workers and lorry drivers out there?

The point I was making is that there are not enough warehouse, shop, factory or lorry driver jobs to keep people gainfully employed. Worried Jim's solution was:

'plenty of agricultural work'

'Tulip meats in South Wales'

'fish factory in Aberdeen'

These are minimum wage jobs with no security and zero career prospects in remote locations. That is fine for young people filling a gap but it is not a life for a parent bringing up children. Some of you suprise me.

treliac

macaque wrote: »

The point I was making is that there are not enough warehouse, shop, factory or lorry driver jobs to keep people gainfully employed. Worried Jim's solution was:

'plenty of agricultural work'

'Tulip meats in South Wales'

'fish factory in Aberdeen'

These are minimum wage jobs with no security and zero career prospects in remote locations. That is fine for young people filling a gap but it is not a life for a parent bringing up children. Some of you suprise me.

My DH works for a large company who employs, nearly exclusively, immigrant workers in their warehouses. But then, they want to hire them as agency workers, take them on and drop them whenever they feel like it / as the work fluctuates. Only immigrant workers either want to or are able to operate like that.

If there wasn't the ready supply of willing foreign labour, they (and I'm sure they're not alone) would have to issue proper contracts and decent terms and conditions in order to get the work done. As it is, they don't need to bother about our unemployed.

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A._Badger

macaque wrote: »

The point I was making is that there are not enough warehouse, shop, factory or lorry driver jobs to keep people gainfully employed. Worried Jim's solution was:

'plenty of agricultural work'

'Tulip meats in South Wales'

'fish factory in Aberdeen'

These are minimum wage jobs with no security and zero career prospects in remote locations. That is fine for young people filling a gap but it is not a life for a parent bringing up children. Some of you suprise me.

Your selection of his suggestions was rather...selective.

Moreover, who says these are dead-end jobs? A worker who shows enterprise and willingness to work will move out of the unsillked sector pretty rapidly. I know one industrialist from the NE who started his career on the pressed steel shop floor and ended-up MD of the company he worked for. It's rare, but it still happens.

You may not fancy working in such industries but plenty of people manage to earn decent money and keep their self-respect by so doing.