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I'm not quite sure why we should burden the armed forces - which is a professional and highly disciplined organisation - with people who don't want to be there.
If we want to get people up at 5.00am then change the signing on rules so that people have to sign on physically each week before 8.00am - but then all that'd do is clog up the roads for proper workers.
I think a daily 6.30 am sign on would maybe dicourage some of the layabouts. Miss a day and you do not get your benefits for that day. Bit like many people who go to work. Bet the scroungers would really squeal.0 -
Anger ruins joy, it steals the goodness of my mind. Forces me to say terrible things. Overcoming anger brings peace of mind, a mind without regret. If I overcome anger, I will be delightful and loved by everyone.0
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The last thing a professional soldier wants is someone next to him that doesn't want to be there.
However, I do like the idea of some form of national service/bulk training. Camps of several hundred, food and services can be provided in bulk, and therefore cheap. On the job training can be provided, with actual experience in something vaguely useful these people may actually want to get back to work. 5 years is too long, it needs to be long enough to change attitudes, but not so long as to actually age them seriously, 3-6 months perhaps (upto a year maybe).0 -
Give them bright red uniforms and a spade each and send them to Afganistan to look for IEDs.0
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The_White_Horse wrote: »i think you all misunderstand the point - they are not there to actually be brave soldiers. they are there to get up at 5.00am and do exercise, have some discipline, and not be hanging around the streets like scum or laying in bed til 1.00pm or watching daytime tv.
i get up early, i work, i can't sit around all day drinking and chatting with my mates smoking like these scumbags.
These people are filth and have it too easy. they need to face the life of those that work.
So they get preferential treatment as far as training and apprenticeship in a trade for life goes, ahead of someone in a crap job who has shown willing enough to work for their bread?
I don't exactly disagree with you on this. Just pointing out the downside. Apprenticeships are precious, like gold in some areas. I'd sooner see existing workers in call centres and retail transferred (consensually) to train as sparkys, technicians, army nurses, medical attendants etc. Bung the workshy into dead end call centre monkey jobs instead.
Workers should have first dibs on good training opps.0 -
I have a better idea, I was watching a program and there was a man in a poor part of the world who wanted nothing more than an education and the opportunity to work.
Now for every person in the world we can find with that attidude get them over here, of course to keep population correct we would have to send a Chav in there place.
Basically we have people in this country who don't want to work when there is work and we have people in poorer countries who want to work but there is no work.
2 birds with 1 stone I think.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
Started third business 25/06/2016
Son born 13/09/2015
Started a second business 03/08/2013
Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/20120 -
You really have it in for people on benefits dont you
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I have said all along god help us if we have to call up a certain age group. We might as well put up a white flag and surrender0 -
The_White_Horse wrote: »i think you all misunderstand the point - they are not there to actually be brave soldiers. they are there to get up at 5.00am and do exercise, have some discipline, and not be hanging around the streets like scum or laying in bed til 1.00pm or watching daytime tv.
i get up early, i work, i can't sit around all day drinking and chatting with my mates smoking like these scumbags.
These people are filth and have it too easy. they need to face the life of those that work.
Thats pretty much all I did when I was a student.
Maybe they should be forced to buddy up with working people to get a taste of the real world. I bet a day spent with you would wipe the smile off their faces.0
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