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So called fixed mortgage

Hi

Bought a 10 year fixed mortgage, stating i wanted a buy to let mortgage.

3.5 years down the road nationwide wish to increase my charges as i have a buy to let mortgage.

Any ideas, do I have a case for ? ie misleading me or ?

Please help

Comments

  • Wh05apk
    Wh05apk Posts: 2,938 Forumite
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    Looks like you have a residential mortgage, so have been saving for the last 3 1/2 years.
    I am sure they will argue you misled them in asking for a residential mortgage, how soon after you completed did you advise them you were renting?
    I am a mortgage adviser.
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • shar1f
    shar1f Posts: 5 Forumite
    Hi

    I informed them before taking on the 10 year fixed, proof being they know that I was planning to rent it out, hence the letter.
  • Pincher
    Pincher Posts: 6,552 Forumite
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    I thought BTL was sold through the MortgageWorks,
    whereas residential mortgage was sold through Nationwide.
  • hillcats
    hillcats Posts: 899 Forumite
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    The original paperwork you signed must state which type of mortgage, surely?
    Does the Key facts document mention BTL?

    Do you still have paperwork from them where it clearly states your intention as BTL?
    If you do have paperwork, you should be arguing with them that you disclosed all the facts and
    they have failed to do it correctly on their side, so why should you be punished for their mistakes...
    ORIGINAL MORTGAGE AMOUNT £106,454.00 (Started Sept 2007)
    NOV 2021 O/S AMOUNT £1,694.41 OUR DEBT REDUCED BY £104,759.59 by std regular, over-payments & off-setting.
    BofE +0.19% Tracker Repayment Offset Mortgage Discounted Sept 07-10 then increased to BofE +0.62% until 2027
  • shar1f
    shar1f Posts: 5 Forumite
    Yes I know that now, nationwide dont do btl, but was unaware at the time
  • shar1f
    shar1f Posts: 5 Forumite
    hillcats wrote: »
    The original paperwork you signed must state which type of mortgage, surely?
    Does the Key facts document mention BTL?

    Do you still have paperwork from them where it clearly states your intention as BTL?
    If you do have paperwork, you should be arguing with them that you disclosed all the facts and
    they have failed to do it correctly on their side, so why should you be punished for their mistakes...


    yes I will try and find paper work, to see if anything is there, but again proof is also in the fact that why are they telling me they are going to raise charges because I had let it out.

    This clearly shows that I had informed them of the fact that I will be letting it out.

    And at no point did mortgage advisor say that the 10 year fixed can be changed at any time should I let it out.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,175 Forumite
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    The technical explanation is that that fixed rate is not being changed. The payment which reflects your mortgage interest / capital is the same. If you moved back into the house the payment would be the same. It is the charges are being changed, to reflect added risk to Nationwide.

    There are several long threads about this already on the forum, might be worth you looking at them for the different arguments and experiences of others.
  • Wakey2008
    Wakey2008 Posts: 149 Forumite
    The fact the rate is fixed for ten years is irrelevant. If you do an unauthorised let, they will still honour the fixed rate but levy an extra charge on top for the added risk to the security that letting out brings.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser and Freelance Journalist
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Wakey2008
    Wakey2008 Posts: 149 Forumite
    Sorrry didn't see Yorkie's post before I wrote mine. Yorkie is spot on.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser and Freelance Journalist
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,015 Forumite
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    And at no point did mortgage advisor say that the 10 year fixed can be changed at any time should I let it out.

    No reason for them to do so unless they knew that you were going to let it out.
    yes I will try and find paper work, to see if anything is there, but again proof is also in the fact that why are they telling me they are going to raise charges because I had let it out.

    This clearly shows that I had informed them of the fact that I will be letting it out.

    That isnt proof. Since a lot of the data on properties is now recorded on computers and in the public domain, the lenders and HMRC have been able to use that to see who is letting properties out. So, they may have picked it up from that. With it software driven and automatic, it would pick up changes and flag them up. That would explain the lag in this being picked up.

    If your application states that you are intending to let out then you may have strong grounds. However, if it doesnt state that anywhere, then you have no evidence to support your claims.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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