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Tories scrap house building targets, 'must protect greenbelt and do what locals want'

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Look at a satellite map of Dartford. All the Thames Gateway blocks of BTL flats have now joined the town to Gravesend by infilling all the villages in between. Gravesend is very nearly joined to London.

    We are going to have to make some very tough decisions in the next decade or so about what kind of homes and country we want to live in. As most demand seems to be coming from London, I would draw a boundary at the M25 and tell London it can build whatever it wants within it, but nothing beyond.


    you mean, not a single property to be built outside the M25 anywhere?
  • Running_Horse
    Running_Horse Posts: 11,809 Forumite
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    If local needs dictate, then yes.

    But not soulless blocks of BTL flats because London keeps expanding faster than it has room to house people.

    Thames Gateway regeneration has done little or nothing for people in places like Erith and Thamesmead, which itself would never have had so many planning mistakes but for the need to dump people out of London.
    Been away for a while.
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    Look at a satellite map of Dartford. All the Thames Gateway blocks of BTL flats have now joined the town to Gravesend by infilling all the villages in between. Gravesend is very nearly joined to London.

    We are going to have to make some very tough decisions in the next decade or so about what kind of homes and country we want to live in. As most demand seems to be coming from London, I would draw a boundary at the M25 and tell London it can build whatever it wants within it, but nothing beyond.

    Do you mean over parks and natural woodland? There are protected areas and species here too you know.

    Also, we need to think of the flood risk :eek:
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    If local needs dictate, then yes.

    But not soulless blocks of BTL flats because London keeps expanding faster than it has room to house people.

    Thames Gateway regeneration has done little or nothing for people in places like Erith and Thamesmead, which itself would never have had so many planning mistakes but for the need to dump people out of London.


    what do you mean 'local needs'... you do mean only people born there can build or what? ... so before you can buy you need to produce a birth certificate?
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Look at a satellite map of Dartford. All the Thames Gateway blocks of BTL flats have now joined the town to Gravesend by infilling all the villages in between. Gravesend is very nearly joined to London.

    We are going to have to make some very tough decisions in the next decade or so about what kind of homes and country we want to live in. As most demand seems to be coming from London, I would draw a boundary at the M25 and tell London it can build whatever it wants within it, but nothing beyond.

    Thats a good idea. Then Londoners can draw a boundary around their economic output so no one outside London can benefit from it.

    Thats your schools and hospitals pretty fcked then.
  • kabayiri
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    Population is projected to increase to 70,000,000 by 2030 or so. An extra 10 million people in just 20 years will need a massive housebuilding programme to keep up. And of course the Tories have just scrapped any chance we had of keeping up with demand.
    But this is why God invented Scotland, surely? ;)
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    But this is why God invented Scotland, surely? ;)

    We may need to rebuild Hadrians wall just to keep the hordes of desperate homeless English out of Gods country.....:D
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    We may need to rebuild Hadrians wall just to keep the hordes of desperate homeless English out of Gods country.....:D
    Think of the HPI man !

    10 potential bidders for every 1 you currently have.

    Imagine how much mileage you could generate on these here forums from such a situation.
  • markharding557
    markharding557 Posts: 3,116 Forumite
    Where i live there is loads of disused land that used to be industrial sites they could build on these but they never do.
    Some of these sites have been derelict for decades:(
  • boomerangs
    boomerangs Posts: 284 Forumite
    This is nonsense. All available land needs to be made available for house building, starting with Parliament Square. There's enough room there for at least a couple of houses when they finally get around to moving on the hippies that currently inhabit it.
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