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next default - please help

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spongebobfancypants
spongebobfancypants Posts: 87 Forumite
edited 31 May 2010 at 2:27PM in Debt-free wannabe
hi please help or advise,
got into some trouble with next last year, account was passed to dca. I settled within a month or so.
next sent me the below letter, please read and give me your thoughts as to its meaning.

DEBT COLLECTION DEPARTMENT

MY NAME
MY ADDRESS

CUSTOMER NO
CURRENT BALANCE
REQUIRED PAYMENT
PAYMENT DUE BY


DEAR XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Your account is now seriously in arrears. A payment of no less than £xxx must be made by xxxxxx if you are to prevent your account automatically transferring to a debt collection agency

call our credit card hotmail on xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Failure to respond to this letter may result in:

1. Additional cost being added to your debt
2. A default will be registered with our credit refernce agency which will effect your ability to gain credit for up to 6 years
3. A collector calling at your home
4. A summoms being issued against you for the total outstanding balance
5. You will no longer to able to trade with Next Directory

yours sincerly



collections department.


Next are now stating that this letter acted as an offical default notice. However it is very vague! It says the following MAY happen, not will happen!
There resonce to my concerns was:
"The Default Notice that we sent complied with the applicable legislation, and contained all the implications that may result if we didn't receive a response to it."

The letter is not headed as a default notice, and I have also researched this matter and found the following statement

In the Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) Regulations 1993 it states that:

(2) Any notice to be given by a creditor or owner in relation to a regulated agreement to a debtor or hirer under section
87(1) of the Act (which relates to the necessity to serve a default notice on the debtor or hirer in accordance with section
88 before taking certain action by reason of any breach of the agreement by the debtor or hirer) shall contain--

(a) a statement that the notice is a default notice served under section 87(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974;

Therefore it follows that if it doesn't include that statement it isn't doesn't comply with the law regarding default notices.


Please could you advise as to my position on this matter. I am pushing to have the default removed from my file, I settled as soon as I could and If I had know that the letter they sent me was an Official default notice I would of done all in my power to settle within the timescale to avoid a default on my file!

thanks for your help
:beer:
Elaine :j

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  • Geebee
    Geebee Posts: 3,081 Forumite
    hi please help or advise,
    got into some trouble with next last year, account was passed to dca. I settled within a month or so.
    next sent me the below letter, please read and give me your thoughts as to its meaning.

    DEBT COLLECTION DEPARTMENT

    MY NAME
    MY ADDRESS

    CUSTOMER NO
    CURRENT BALANCE
    REQUIRED PAYMENT
    PAYMENT DUE BY


    DEAR XXXXXXXXXXXXX

    Your account is now seriously in arrears. A payment of no less than £xxx must be made by xxxxxx if you are to prevent your account automatically transferring to a debt collection agency

    call our credit card hotmail on xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Failure to respond to this letter will result in:

    1. Additional cost being added to your debt
    2. A default will be registered with our credit refernce agency which will effect your ability to gain credit for up to 6 years
    3. A collector calling at your home
    4. A summoms being issued against you for the total outstanding balance
    5. You will no longer to able to trade with Next Directory

    yours sincerly



    collections department.


    Next are now stating that this letter acted as an offical default notice. However it is very vague! It says the following MAY happen, not will happen!
    There resonce to my concerns was:
    "The Default Notice that we sent complied with the applicable legislation, and contained all the implications that may result if we didn't receive a response to it."

    The letter is not headed as a default notice, and I have also researched this matter and found the following statement

    In the Consumer Credit (Enforcement, Default and Termination Notices) Regulations 1993 it states that:

    (2) Any notice to be given by a creditor or owner in relation to a regulated agreement to a debtor or hirer under section
    87(1) of the Act (which relates to the necessity to serve a default notice on the debtor or hirer in accordance with section
    88 before taking certain action by reason of any breach of the agreement by the debtor or hirer) shall contain--

    (a) a statement that the notice is a default notice served under section 87(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974;

    Therefore it follows that if it doesn't include that statement it isn't doesn't comply with the law regarding default notices.


    Please could you advise as to my position on this matter. I am pushing to have the default removed from my file, I settled as soon as I could and If I had know that the letter they sent me was an Official default notice I would of done all in my power to settle within the timescale to avoid a default on my file!

    thanks for your help
    :beer:
    Hi spongebob

    If you have accurately copied the letter that they sent to you, it doesn't say MAY, it says WILL.
    I have no knowledge of these matters so hopefully someone will be able to help you, but that is my initial thought on the letter.

    GB
    If you can, help others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them~Dalai Lama
    How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours~Wayne Dyer
    Let none find fault in others. Let none see omissions and commissions in others. But let one see one's own acts, done and undone~ch4 vs50
  • thanks fot highlighting that!! lol
    have just checked, it is worded................FAILURE TO RESPOND TO THIS LETTER MAY RESULT IN
    will amend my orginal post

    Thanks!
    Elaine :j

  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    If you're settled the arrears/debt within a month then the default notice would be void, cos the account is settled prior to DN being issued, right? or no?

    The letter you refer to is a noticie of intended default, like a termination letter. You would have been served a default notice 14 days later than this letter..... what you're saying makes no sense if you settled within a month or so - I assume you spoke to them prior to settlement?
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • is was longer than a month before i managed to settle, they passed the account to a dca after no response from the letter i posted! however, if it was clear that they were going to default me then I would of done my best to settle before
    Elaine :j

  • also, i never recieved any other letter after this one warning of intended default
    Elaine :j

  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    also, i never recieved any other letter after this one warning of intended default

    Ok simples

    Sent this to the DCA first: Request copy of Default Notice - Formal Demand

    Then see what comes back, before sending this to the CRA's: Default Removal Letter to CRA's


    If both fail then you should report to the OFt and ICO. :D:D
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • thanks, will do
    Elaine :j

  • thanks for your help!
    :beer:
    Elaine :j

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