Been asked to look after a 10 year old after school

achtunglady

Hi there, a mum whose daughter goes to the same school as my daughter has asked me if i can look after her daughter from the end of the school day until she is collected by her, which could be up to 7pm but on most days before that.

The girl is 10. I hold an enhanced CRB check, and have a paediatric first aid certificate but was wondering if i needed to be registered with OFSTED due to the girls age.

I have been thinking of prices and this is what i have come up:

(basic)3.15pm-5pm = £6 which includes a meal
(overtime 1)5pm-6.30pm= an additional £1 on top of basic
6.30pm-7pm = an additional £1.50 on top of basic plus overtime 1

She has asked me to look after the girl during school holidays and i am thinking of charging £12 per day until 5pm including evening meal (mum to provide her lunch) and then the above rates will apply.

I was wondering if there was anything i may have missed or not realised i have to do, could someone point me in the right direction please.

I have looked at the website which gives a list of childminders in my area, but i havent found any near ones who cater for over 8 yr olds.

I will be looking after her in my own home. Any advice appreciated please, thank you.

Oldernotwiser

£12 per day? She'll think she's won the jackpot!

alwaysonthego_2

I pay £3 per hour per child, so £12 per day is extremely cheap as ONW as said.

MrsE_2

I paid £10 a day 20 years ago working a 6 hour day.

£12 for full time now is incredible!

Prudent

I think the rate is far too cheap. If you want to have a day out with your daughter in the holidays you will be taking this child too. £12 will barely cover costs of entry etc. Even if you just go swimming and get a snack at least half the money will be used in costs. My local out of school club charges £20 and extra for outings and £7.50 from school until 6pm.

Owain_Moneysaver

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Have a look at OFSTED Childminding between Friends and Registration not required.

You should notify your insurer and check that you will be covered for liability, especially if you are charging for this.

achtunglady

Prudent wrote: »

I think the rate is far too cheap. If you want to have a day out with your daughter in the holidays you will be taking this child too. £12 will barely cover costs of entry etc. Even if you just go swimming and get a snack at least half the money will be used in costs. My local out of school club charges £20 and extra for outings and £7.50 from school until 6pm.

the mum will pay additionally on top of the £12 per day for incidental costs of the trip, but remember the £12 covers her until 5pm, after that the overtime rates kick in.

I want to be reasonable, there is an after school club that charges £9 per day(3pm-5.45pm) but collection has to be at 5.45pm and for every 15 mins after that they charge £5 until half 6 when they call social services, plus they only look after them in term time

achtunglady

MrsE wrote: »

I paid £10 a day 20 years ago working a 6 hour day.

£12 for full time now is incredible!

She will be reading a book, doing homework or some comprehension when she is here so won't be too taxing for her or me

Oldernotwiser

achtunglady wrote: »

She will be reading a book, doing homework or some comprehension when she is here so won't be too taxing for her or me

After school maybe (although I doubt it) - but for a whole day? Have you met many 10 year olds recently?

Naggity

Ofsted have a voluntary over 8's register. It costs £103 to be placed on the register. If your parent intends to pay using childcare vouchers you must register. This is because you will need an Ofsted number in order to use the vouchers.

Most childminders charge per hour. Round my way we charge between £2.50 and £5.00. You need to consider the amount of effort required to look after a child. You need to do daily safety checks, regular fire drills, have ideas of what to do in an emergency, get forms such as permission for photographs and trips filled out, keep an attendance register, do safety assessments for trips, etc. It is also considered good practise to do crafts that will progress the child within the national curriculum, to keep records of what you have done and to keep records to show how the child has progressed. Full day care requires a lot more planning. It is not enough to just stick the child in front of the television or leave them to their own devices. Childminding is hard work and requires a lot of effort on your part.

You will require insurance and, if planning any trips, you need to have your car insurance adjusted to show you are a childminder.

A contract is essential.

If you are providing meals you must register as a food business. The food standards agency will want to inspect your property.

You must register as self employed and complete a self-assessment form every year.

achtunglady

Naggity wrote: »

Ofsted have a voluntary over 8's register. It costs £103 to be placed on the register. If your parent intends to pay using childcare vouchers you must register. This is because you will need an Ofsted number in order to use the vouchers. The mother wants to pay in cash so no need to register with OFSTED

Most childminders charge per hour. I agree but in these circumstances, if i was to charge her say £5 per hour, she would not earn much more herself after my fees were taken off, would you work if you were earning say £2 an hour after paying childminders fees?

Round my way we charge between £2.50 and £5.00. You need to consider the amount of effort required to look after a child. You need to do daily safety checks, regular fire drills, have ideas of what to do in an emergency, get forms such as permission for photographs and trips filled out, keep an attendance register, do safety assessments for trips, etc. It is also considered good practise to do crafts that will progress the child within the national curriculum, to keep records of what you have done and to keep records to show how the child has progressed. I am in touch with the childs teacher and she is willing to give me guidance and resources as to what the child needs to practice more academically. Who do i show these records if i choose not to register with OFSTED?? Full day care requires a lot more planning. It is not enough to just stick the child in front of the television or leave them to their own devices. Her father said he will give her written work to do in the form of maths and english and she will have things to do suggested by her teacher to help her with areas of development

Childminding is hard work and requires a lot of effort on your part.

You will require insurance and, if planning any trips, you need to have your car insurance adjusted to show you are a childminder. Trips will be by public transport and risk assessments will be done before embarking on any trips

A contract is essential. I have drafted one already including a section where the parent gives permission to go on trips and in the case of emergency giving permission to administer first aid and consent to sign hospital forms if a delay in getting the parents signature would prove harmful or fatal to the child. I will not be taking photographs of the girl.

If you are providing meals you must register as a food business. The food standards agency will want to inspect your property.

You must register as self employed and complete a self-assessment form every year.

I will look into it further regarding the last two points, everything else i have covered