Can I paint faces at a fete without getting in trouble!?

little_girl_lost

Sorry I'm not really sure which topic to post this in, so I thought I would start here, hope you dont mind.

My friend and I (both Female and 20) both work on minimum wage.
In August there will be a fete/gala type thing in out town.
Both being arty types we thought maybe we could set up a stall painting faces for £2 a time.

But the more I think about it the more I worry!

Here are my worries:

1. Do we need CRB checks?
2. Do we have to register as a business?
3. Will we need to declare the money we make for tax reasons?
4. Do we need Liability Insurance?
5. Shall we just not bother!

Any help appreciated

Little girl lost x

Fiver29

Not sure about all the questions, but any money you make should be declared for tax reasons. I would think liability insurance was a must too, just in case you paint the face of someone who's allergic.

HopeAndDriftWood

You'll need liability, incase a child is allergic or you cause a reaction.
CRBs...depends if the children would be left with you for any period, but most fete owners will want one to cover themselves. You would declare for tax, but probably wouldn't pay any, depending on how busy it was.

My sister used to do this, and get paid a lot for it, so it might be worthwhile?

Edited to add that while liability insurance might not be legally necessary (I'm honestly not certain, but I thought it was) if you didn't have it and caused a reaction, you could be sued personally. And for a day, it would only cost a little...my sister paid £28 for a weekends cover, I think.

scotsbob

My daughter and her friend used to do this outside football grounds. They would paint the team colours on the fans faces at £2 a go. £200 an afternoon was the average they made.
To answer your questions specificallly
1. No
2. No
3. Yes of course because all your customers will know your National Insurance numbers and dates of birth and addresses and will be notifying the tax people they had their faces painted won't they?
4 No
5 There is decent money to be made, go for it.

hermum

Loads of opportunities with this I would have thought, private parties as well as fetes. May even be worth getting a peddlars license depending on where you live. If in a place with a tourist industry.
Might be worth taking a look at this site
http://www.villagefetes.co.uk/
There could be some good info for you
I would definitely say it would be a good idea to have a police check.
Insurance a must.
Good luck

Fiver29

scotsbob wrote: »

My daughter and her friend used to do this outside football grounds. They would paint the team colours on the fans faces at £2 a go. £200 an afternoon was the average they made.
To answer your questions specificallly
1. No
2. No
3. Yes of course because all your customers will know your National Insurance numbers and dates of birth and addresses and will be notifying the tax people they had their faces painted won't they?
4 No
5 There is decent money to be made, go for it.

I think you're advice for 3 is a bit reckless, whilst the customers might not bother, it only takes one person to be wandering around the fete in an official capacity to report it. For the sake of filling out a form, it is worth being fined?

xbrenx

Contact the council or whoever is organising it. You may need to pay them a fee for a stall which will then include insurances needed. I believe.

scotsbob

Fiver29 wrote: »

I think you're advice for 3 is a bit reckless, whilst the customers might not bother, it only takes one person to be wandering around the fete in an official capacity to report it. For the sake of filling out a form, it is worth being fined?

My annswer was "Yes" and I gave my reasons. In what way is that reckless?

As you correctly say, only one tax official needs to be wandering around a village fete checking up on people who are face painting. Or, as I pointed out, any member of the public could do the same.

As I said in my original post, my daughter and her friend did this every weekend and there were always people wandering around checking in their official capacity. That's why they declared every single penny to the tax man.

sockdrawer

xbrenx wrote: »

Contact the council or whoever is organising it. You may need to pay them a fee for a stall which will then include insurances needed. I believe.

Just from my own experience of running an event- We have our own public liability insurance for the weekend of the event, but we also expect people to have their own insurance (and ask for papers) , for example, face painters, paintball people, clowns. Copies are made and sent off with the risk assessment folder to the council in our area.

Just thought it might help. It may be different where you are, the above is just my own experience.

josie

scotsbob wrote: »

My annswer was "Yes" and I gave my reasons. In what way is that reckless?

As you correctly say, only one tax official needs to be wandering around a village fete checking up on people who are face painting. Or, as I pointed out, any member of the public could do the same.

As I said in my original post, my daughter and her friend did this every weekend and there were always people wandering around checking in their official capacity. That's why they declared every single penny to the tax man.

Perhaps you need to alter your answer to point no. 3 then! Otherwise you're advocating tax evasion.