Another one of those benefits threads

Graham_Devon

Harry_Powell wrote: »

There are two different arguments here. The former, with carolt as its cheerleader, is the outrage at all benefits for single parents - we've already established that carolt doesn't mind receiving her benefits and is quite happy for future children not to receive them, she just doesn't like people getting more than her. The latter, which is my argument, is that all benefits should be targetted at those who need them, rather than everyone receiving them. We have finite resources and they should be aimed at those who need them, not the likes of carolt and the rest who have become accustomed to them.

As an aside, I find it laughable for the OP to moan about the open handed way the state treats one group and then defends to the hilt the handout she receives. The irony completely escapes her that a lot of people will be looking with outrage at the large amount she receives in benefits each month.

LOL, how bitter are you!?

Carol this, carol that. Carols bad. Oooo, look what carol said. Did I mention Carol?

At least do the poor women a favour, and switch the leg your humping.

lemonjelly

PasturesNew wrote: »

Most working singles, who have worked all their life (because they're single and it's all down to them) don't know this.

I probably could claim, but the forms are huge. So you don't.

Also, if you're self-employed (like I am), you don't have the figures/proof to be able to put in a claim as you've not done your tax return ... and you keep plodding on, hoping that "today things will turn a corner".

And, mostly, if you do look into it, it seems you can only get about £5/week, so it's not worth it.

The entitled to website's a pile of old sh1te - it's a shame you can't key in all the data onto one page, then use sliders to change circumstances to see how it changes. Also, it does give you the impression you can claim, but when you try they say "nope".

PN I love & respect you, but the bits in bold mean that the only reason you're/they're losing out is down to your own/their own fault...

If you did fill in the forms, or did the tax return, you'd have the evidence & would therefore be able to claim.

lemonjelly

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I need to get it up again

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You got problems you need to discuss graham?

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This could turn into plums mark 2...:eek:

Graham_Devon

lemonjelly wrote: »

:eek:

You got problems you need to discuss graham?

:eek:

This could turn into plums mark 2...:eek:

LOL

Mere inuendo, and lemon's there like a shot

Sadly, these days, Sjay is all grown up, and it will probably pass her inncoently by

lemonjelly

Graham_Devon wrote: »

LOL

Mere inuendo, and lemon's there like a shot

Sadly, these days, Sjay is all grown up, and it will probably pass her inncoently by

It's all I get nowadays!:(;)

Harry_Powell

Graham_Devon wrote: »

LOL

Mere inuendo, and lemon's there like a shot

Sadly, these days, Sjay is all grown up, and it will probably pass her inncoently by

It's sad when a person's only sexual expression is internet forum based innuendo and flirting. I'd get off the internet and venture out into the real world Graham, perhaps then you'll get a real relationship instead of a virtual one. You may even lose your cherry?

Just a thought.

Graham_Devon

Harry_Powell wrote: »

Just a thought.

May I congratulate you on how deep and meaningful a thought it was too.

Blew my bitter assertion right out of the water!

carolt

Touche. ...

Wookster

Did anyone see the Channel 4 news last night - which had a piece on anti-social behaviour. Part of it focused on a mother who was on benefits and who had 9 kids, didn't control/ discipline them at all and then wandered why they were doing drugs, behaving anti-socially etc. She couldn't have less aspirations, and from that sort of background neither will her kids.

This sort of thing is just shocking but in a democracy its very very hard to see what practical solutions there are to these sorts of problems, aside of one to one support for everyone (mother and children) involved and that is clearly extremely expensive.

It is a problem that grows exponentially which makes it worse.

SingleSue

carolt wrote: »

Plus I can think of numerous areas where we currently spend but would not have to if on benefits; eg my DD has a school trip next month costing £150 of taxed income. If on benefits, that would be free. As would all the other numerous school trips my 3 go on and which I have to pay for. Let's add free school meals, free prescriptions, saving towards university costs, etc into the bargain. And add costs of childcare so I can work, costs of work clothes and upkeep (dry cleaning etc). I could go on and on.

All free, free free if you're on benefits.

But please don't abandon your aim of reducing my blood pressure, sjay!

Incidentally, someone who works in the field told me yesterday that the current maximum rate of LHA available to those who don't work with large families is...96K a year.

That is so wrong I just don't have a clue where to start.

School trips are not free in this area, there isn't even a discretionary fund at the school (either schools), I have to pay what everyone else has to pay...working or not.

Cost of work clothes and dry cleaning? I've heard I can get a one off grant to buy interview clothes, again though it has to be applied for and is not guaranteed but never heard of the dry cleaning bit!

Yes, I do get free school meals but eldest doesn't use them (long story, lots of battles with the school over the salad choice and the amount).

There is no school uniform allowance here and no discretionary allowance from the school, as per the school trips, I have to pay what everyone else has to pay, working or not.

Our area is not so bad with rent, my rent is less than £100 a week (think it is currently £83) for a 3 bedder...our maximum LHA for a 3 bedroom house is £136.93 per week, average non social housing rent in this area for a 3 bedroom house is a wee bit more than that, so would have to be topped up out of the claimants own pocket.

So not everything is free, some things come down to area.