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  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    purch wrote: »
    Why ?

    Why is a nuclear deterrent not crucial for Germany, Japan, Australia, Spain, Italy, Canada, Brazil, and all the other countries who don't waste billions of their tax revenues on one ?

    Because it is a requirement to get on the UN Security Council? Clearly, there is some historical context in this. Perhaps it was revisited.
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • heffsta
    heffsta Posts: 46 Forumite
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea have more influence than Germany & Japan ?

    Righty ho.

    And the biggest threat the UK has (security wise) is from terrorism which is not going to be deterred by nuclear options.
  • WhiteThierry
    WhiteThierry Posts: 166 Forumite
    vaporate wrote: »
    Yes it does. Else all countries would scrap it.

    There is no cheaper option. More so when it comes to the defence of this country.

    Want cuts? Cut the benefit system. (e.g. £250 child vouchers?!)

    the cheaper option would be to have aircraft launched nuclear weapons (like we used to have) and some of our planes still have nuke capabilities (with a bit of tweaking).

    the downside of this is that the enemy know where they are and could simply bomb us and destroy our nuclear capabilities.

    blah blah blah.... who cares, get rid of 'em, no-one wants to nuke us, and if we stop trying to be the world police theres even less chance someone will bomb us.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    edited 12 May 2010 at 10:36AM
    Jonbvn wrote: »
    Because it is a requirement to get on the UN Security Council? Clearly, there is some historical context in this. Perhaps it was revisited.
    100% correct. More importantly, we need it to keep our Veto seat.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Cat695 wrote: »
    as said time and time again

    The people with nukes have more say than the people with out them...it really is that simple.

    As in Germany?
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Jonbvn wrote: »
    Because it is a requirement to get on the UN Security Council? Clearly, there is some historical context in this. Perhaps it was revisited.

    Wrong - the 5 permanent members (established just after the war) were effectively the winners of WW2.

    At the time only the USA had nuclear weapons.
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  • Cat695
    Cat695 Posts: 3,647 Forumite
    edited 12 May 2010 at 10:46AM
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea have more influence than Germany & Japan ?

    Righty ho.

    In NATO....YES which none of those countries are part of....less Germany
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, then you have failed to plan properly


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  • Cat695
    Cat695 Posts: 3,647 Forumite
    the cheaper option would be to have aircraft launched nuclear weapons (like we used to have) and some of our planes still have nuke capabilities (with a bit of tweaking).

    the downside of this is that the enemy know where they are and could simply bomb us and destroy our nuclear capabilities.

    blah blah blah.... who cares, get rid of 'em, no-one wants to nuke us, and if we stop trying to be the world police theres even less chance someone will bomb us.

    Aircraft launched weapons are...useless

    No one wants to nuke anyone...hence why its a deterrent....thats the whole point

    And so far its worked...amazing eh.
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, then you have failed to plan properly


    I've only ever been wrong once! and that was when I thought I was wrong but I was right
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Wrong - the 5 permanent members (established just after the war) were effectively the winners of WW2.

    At the time only the USA had nuclear weapons.
    How do you suggest we maintain the seat?

    Defend the country with peashooters?
  • zappahey
    zappahey Posts: 2,252 Forumite
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    heffsta wrote: »
    And the biggest threat the UK has (security wise) is from terrorism which is not going to be deterred by nuclear options.

    No, that's the excuse used to keep you in fear, while state powers are increased.

    Frankly, the biggest risk from terrorism is the loss of freedom and privacy in the cause of preventing a small number of deaths every few years.
    What goes around - comes around
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