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RBS & LLoyds

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  • this is all smoke and mirrors
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    I should be saying how fantastic I am, because I was right that we would not make a loss on the deal.

    However, it is not a profit or loss until you actually sell the shares.

    Many a slip between cup and listing on the stock market.

    So, I will wait until we see the cash before declaring my genious. As should Mr Darling, who is a mufter in any case.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,270 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    LJ you are sounding very male in your vernacular today.
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    That said, anything that makes Osbourne look the deluded incompetant pr1ck he is, can only be a good thing...
    I think....
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    However, it is not a profit or loss until you actually sell the shares.

    Will there not be a dividend from the profits?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »

    So, I will wait until we see the cash before declaring my genious. As should Mr Darling, who is a mufter in any case.


    What's a mufter ?

    (excuse my ignorance)
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Yeah, there will, but how much of the dividend is actually clear profit or loss? Very little. Because the money to buy these organisations was borrowed, it incurrs quite a large opportunity cost which I think is very hard to account for. I think the dividend isn't clear profit in any sence.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Will there not be a dividend from the profits?

    Not for a while I would think.

    Rebuilding capital base will be a priority.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    What's a mufter ?

    (excuse my ignorance)

    It's a word I use as a placeholder for other, less complimentary, words I cannot use on money saving expert.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Not for a while I would think.

    Rebuilding capital base will be a priority.

    If the profits are directed to doing that, what's the likely impact on the share price?
    surely it's just re-investing for a higher return
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    If the profits are directed to doing that, what's the likely impact on the share price?
    surely it's just re-investing for a higher return

    No idea on the share price impact, although I would imagine that dividends will need to be reinstated before the government sells off its stake.

    Rebuilding the Capital base is more about making the business less risky and more able to withstand problems in the future, most certainly not about higher returns.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
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