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Are the Lib Dems' policies really credible?

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  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    adr0ck wrote: »
    No i'm not just making it up (its in their manifesto)

    Lib Dems are going to put VAT on house building

    in this market that is effectively house builders profit margin wiped out

    therefore all private development sites will just be mothballed and the majority of people in the industry will lose their jobs

    work in the construction industry - vote Lib Dem - lose your job simples

    Can you direct me to the page no please?
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • beer_tins
    beer_tins Posts: 1,677 Forumite
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    Why are the house builders effectively subsidised, anyway? Shouldn't they pay VAT like any other industry and demand will drive building projects naturally?
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  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    beer_tins wrote: »
    Why are the house builders effectively subsidised, anyway? Shouldn't they pay VAT like any other industry and demand will drive building projects naturally?

    How much building work is carried out on a cash basis ;)
  • JamesU
    JamesU Posts: 1,060 Forumite
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    lynzpower wrote: »
    Can you direct me to the page no please?

    Last box in bottom right hand corner of page 81??? Refers to all new build?

    JamesU
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
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    lynzpower wrote: »
    Can you direct me to the page no please?

    page 81 me thinks....james beat me to it
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
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    beer_tins wrote: »
    Why are the house builders effectively subsidised, anyway? Shouldn't they pay VAT like any other industry and demand will drive building projects naturally?

    why do private house builders have to provide affordable homes and open space and play equipment onsite and offsite etc etc etc etc
  • lynzpower
    lynzpower Posts: 25,311 Forumite
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    adr0ck wrote: »
    why do private house builders have to provide affordable homes and open space and play equipment onsite and offsite etc etc etc etc

    because if they don't they don't get Planning permission- simples.

    With an attitude like that you wont garner a lot of sympathy.

    Its my view that the building industry - like others by the looks of is wildly inflated anyway- and some of them making the most eye watering profits. in the boom whilst all the time over ramping the market to crash point.


    The alternative is to keep on building new- ( to increasingly lower standards, certainly in terms of units on sites - I can speak in london they knock down a block of 12 flats and a block of 48 goes up in its place, minus the gardens/ obviously), lets not allow quality of life to get in the way of making a profit. Something im sure you agree with, regardless of who has to exist in these properties at the end.

    In sure you wont agree, if you are in construction. Maybe the raft of green jobs might employ the distanced builders and other tradespeople.
    :beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
    So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    How much building work is carried out on a cash basis
    the Lib Dems want to put VAT on the sale of new builds :wall:

    do you think you could rock up to a developer and give him £200k cash in hand if he doesn't charge you VAT??

    nobodies going to know about that are they. pmsl!!!
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
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    lynzpower wrote: »
    because if they don't they don't get Planning permission- simples.

    With an attitude like that you wont garner a lot of sympathy.

    Its my view that the building industry - like others by the looks of is wildly inflated anyway- and some of them making the most eye watering profits. in the boom whilst all the time over ramping the market to crash point.


    The alternative is to keep on building new- ( to increasingly lower standards, certainly in terms of units on sites - I can speak in london they knock down a block of 12 flats and a block of 48 goes up in its place, minus the gardens/ obviously), lets not allow quality of life to get in the way of making a profit. Something im sure you agree with, regardless of who has to exist in these properties at the end.

    In sure you wont agree, if you are in construction. Maybe the raft of green jobs might employ the distanced builders and other tradespeople.

    it was a question lynz

    just so you know i'm not looking for sympathy and to be honest its your attitude that stinks

    from my first post you called me a liar

    do i get an apology for you calling me a liar?

    no didn't think so
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
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    lynzpower wrote: »
    because if they don't they don't get Planning permission- simples.

    With an attitude like that you wont garner a lot of sympathy.

    Its my view that the building industry - like others by the looks of is wildly inflated anyway- and some of them making the most eye watering profits. in the boom whilst all the time over ramping the market to crash point.


    The alternative is to keep on building new- ( to increasingly lower standards, certainly in terms of units on sites - I can speak in london they knock down a block of 12 flats and a block of 48 goes up in its place, minus the gardens/ obviously), lets not allow quality of life to get in the way of making a profit. Something im sure you agree with, regardless of who has to exist in these properties at the end.

    In sure you wont agree, if you are in construction. Maybe the raft of green jobs might employ the distanced builders and other tradespeople.

    with regards to quality of life due to knocking down a block of flats and replacing it with a block of 48 flats without gardens

    if the developer didn't do this he wouldn't get planning permission - simples
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