term time working and holidays.

jdturk

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Yes, I think so. I'd use the 12.07% calculation, then deduct the bank holidays.

It would surely depend on the contract, if the person works term time the holiday could be rolled into the wage?

Savvy_Sue

jdturk wrote: »

It would surely depend on the contract, if the person works term time the holiday could be rolled into the wage?

true, although they'd have to show it separately. My point is that to work out how much it would be, I think the easiest thing would be the 12.07% calculation. But I wasn't clear.

getmore4less

Don't you also need to make sure it is a 52 week contract to make sure you get continuity of employment.

kurjam

how do you do the calculation ?

angelfire

Ring the relevant HR department of the local authority. Usually in schools, term time staff are paid their (pro rata'd) salary over 12 months - they don't only get paid on the months they work. So if the full time salary is, say £15k, and the pro rata salary is say, £11.5, then that £11.5 is divided by 12 and paid monthly.
Then it's just a case of confirming whether it is a permanent or temp post...

The way I calculate to get pro rata pay is as follows:

Say a person is on scale point 2, £12,000 and works 20 hours per week, term time (term time in this case, being 39 weeks):

you need to divide the number of hours by full time hours, then times by the weeks of the year. Then divide by the actual weeks worked, then multiply by the yearly salary. Like this:

20/37 x 52.1428/39 x 12000 = 8672.39

I've used 39 as the usual number of weeks worked for term time staff - this is how it is at our school. bUt some contracts are term time plus a week or similar. Also, every employee is entitled to some holiday pay, so this 39, may become 41, for example, once holidays are taken into account. But the above is a rough equation to use..

Mudd14

From my experience and that includes payroll in schools employees would be paid a rate to include holiday pay. So pay is enhanced to include the proportion of holiday pay which is then not paid in school holidays.

angelfire

Mudd14 wrote: »

From my experience and that includes payroll in schools employees would be paid a rate to include holiday pay. So pay is enhanced to include the proportion of holiday pay which is then not paid in school holidays.

This is only correct for employees who are temporary and/or using timesheets. All staff on permanent or temp contracts have their salary paid in equal installments spread across the year or the term of the contract.

squashy

I have a calculator and it is quite complex as it depends on payscale and length of service. However going off the lower end of the payscale with no length of service then the following applies:

For someone who worked full time (35 hours per week), Term Time Only, they would be paid for 46.8 weeks of the year, which is 38 actual time in school plus bank holidays plus holiday pay. For someone on a salary point of £15,000 FTE this would mean a pro-rata salary of £13463.

For the equivalent on a 16 hour week, a £15,000 FTE salary equates to £6154.

I'm afraid I don't have the formula as it is embedded into a tool I use! But you can use the above as a rough guide.

getmore4less

squashy wrote: »

I have a calculator and it is quite complex as it depends on payscale and length of service. However going off the lower end of the payscale with no length of service then the following applies:

For someone who worked full time (35 hours per week), Term Time Only, they would be paid for 46.8 weeks of the year, which is 38 actual time in school plus bank holidays plus holiday pay. For someone on a salary point of £15,000 FTE this would mean a pro-rata salary of £13463.

For the equivalent on a 16 hour week, a £15,000 FTE salary equates to £6154.

I'm afraid I don't have the formula as it is embedded into a tool I use! But you can use the above as a rough guide.

Thats a lot of paid holidays compared to stat for normal full time jobs

punita123

Hi
kurjam i think she will not get leave during her term