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Great Post From HPC


There's no way out. The UK housing market does not operate in isolation from everything else. You do not come to within days of financial meltdown without a price to pay. NL have just delayed paying it. QE, SLS, and the rest, will have to stop. Back to November 2008 again.

The UK economy shrunk by 6% - solely in the private sector, possibly less than half of the UK economy. Public sector spending increased in this time - at a cost of borrowing an extra £180 billion a year. The public sector is grossly inefficient, the private sector has been absolutely clobbered and is entangled in red tape and other crud. This imbalance is going to have to be addressed. We still have a trade deficit. The EU - our biggest trading partner by some way - is up the spout. We're the most indebted country in the world (450% of GDP or thereabouts) - with the possible exception of Japan, that great beacon of hope and economic recovery. We've got a colossal pensions/retirement crisis looming.

Yet growth is still going to magically appear from somewhere, and it'll all be dandy again. House prices will soar up to 2007 levels and beyond.

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  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    edited 7 April 2010 at 1:06PM
    Where did the service sector shrink by 6%?
    http://www.markiteconomics.com/MarkitFiles/Pages/ViewPressRelease.aspx?ID=6331
    The headline CIPS/Markit Business Activity Index recorded 56.5, down from 58.4 in February but well above the crucial 50.0 no-change mark. Moreover, despite the disruptions seen earlier in the year, average growth in Q1 was broadly similar to that posted in Q4.

    50 is no change. It is still growing just not as fast.

    Edit.
    Oh I get it we are talking about the recession and not what is happening now.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    I do think posts lose some of their gravitas when you know what the tone and almost the content will be before you read them.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    "We're the most indebted country in the world (450% of GDP or thereabouts"

    Wrong, wrong, and thrice wrong.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
  • System
    System Posts: 178,422 Community Admin
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    edited 7 April 2010 at 1:21PM
    Great post if you judge a post on how many errors it contains.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Wrong, wrong, and thrice wrong

    That tends to be the outcome if you rely on anonymous Blogs and Posts from the Internet as your sole source of information.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    doire wrote: »
    ... House prices will soar up to 2007 levels and beyond. ..................

    In large swathes of the country they are already beyond 2007 levels, but don't let the facts get in the way of another rant.

    Glad to see that HPC continues to attract a certain type.

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  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    The asking prices for the nicer bits of North West London are about 15% ahead of what they were in 2007 as far as I can see.

    If you'd bought a place in South Oxhey however, you'd have lost about £50,000 by now.

    Which brings me to the conclusion that,

    A) There is a dire shortage of places to live where there are no chavs. And a surfeit of places to live where there are chavs.

    B) Even chavs dont want to live with chavs.

    Fortunately I have a new job and am 'emigrating' out of this dump to the Home Counties.

    What a relief.
  • doire_2
    doire_2 Posts: 2,280 Forumite
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    I do like a nice bit of fishing :rotfl:
  • nembot
    nembot Posts: 1,234 Forumite
    Growth will occur, whilst the means that enable to is available. We understand this may change after the election and the other factors always had a finite lifespan.

    To suggest this will go on forever, allowing continued growth is maybe a little too enthusiastic?
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    doire wrote: »
    I do like a nice bit of fishing :rotfl:

    Don't suppose you ever bite then???
    doire wrote: »
    He keeps banging on about waiting another 15 years but gives no facts to back this up


    Oh whoops.... nasty hook you're on there.....
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