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Historical House Affordability

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  • morag1202
    morag1202 Posts: 536 Forumite
    MatteH wrote: »
    12% to 15% isn't that big an increase (25%), 4% to 5% is the same.

    My friend's mortgage has gone from 4.2% in 2005, to 6.75% now!! (61% increase)

    Yup, it hurt :D
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  • ukcarper
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    I saved with the Leeds BS for two years, and then, when I decided I needed a mortgage in principle, they told me the quota was used up. :(

    So I popped into a 'new' building society on our High St and asked what they could do for someone with £1k. They offered me a mortgage, provided I moved my stash there immediately. By the end of the day, I was set up to go searching.

    That was probably the first time I realised that loyalty in financial matters wouldn't necessarily be rewarded. confused0024.gif

    When I got my first mortgage in 1972 after not being offered enough by Building Society I had been saving with and one broker I sat down and rang all the local Building Societies until one offered me enough.
  • Graham_Devon
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Certainly did in 90.

    Research by Halifax, the UK's largest mortgage lender, has revealed that mortgage rates peaked 15 years ago and have never returned to that level.

    The Standard Variable Rate (SVR) peaked at 15.4 per cent in February 1990 after a steady upward trend from 9.8 per cent in April 1998.


    http://www.fairinvestment.co.uk/news/mortgages-news-Halifax-reveals-15-year-gap-since-mortgage-rate-peak-7756568.html

    SVR did, did all mortgages? I did say average afterall. Or do I have to go hunting for links again? Actually i can't be bothered....would rather admit I'm just wrong as all round its easier, but have posted them up before, and was told that was correct even by ISTL I think.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Generali wrote: »
    It's worth remembering that over time in the UK, wages have increased relative to prices so a larger proportion of income is freed for aspirational spending including bidding up house prices and discretionary spending.

    Indeed.

    You may find this interesting.

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/Expodata/Spreadsheets/D6250.xls

    Household disposable income has increased massively since the 70's.
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  • LydiaJ
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    edited 3 April 2010 at 9:10PM
    My parents bought their house in 1959. House was £2400. They borrowed £800 from my dad's parents, and got a £1600 mortgage on the basis of my dad's salary of £1100pa. My mum was a SAHM at the time. I'm afraid I've no idea what interest rates were, but somebody can look it up if they want to.

    The job my dad was doing probably pays about £33k today, and the house has recently been valued at £500k in its current state or £650k if done up - they haven't done much in the way of modernising it since they bought it. ;)

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  • Cleaver
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    My parents bought their house in 1959. House was £2400. They borrowed £800 from my dad's parents,

    That bank of Mum and Dad has to run out soon...

    ;)
  • ukcarper
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    edited 3 April 2010 at 9:18PM
    [QUOTE=My parents bought their house in 1959. House was £2400. They borrowed £800 from my dad's parents, and got a £1600 mortgage on the basis of my dad's salary of £1100pa. My mum was a SAHM at the time. I'm afraid I've no idea what interest rates were, but somebody can look it up if they want to.

    The job my dad was doing probably pays about £33k today, and the house has recently been valued at £500k in its current state or £650k if done up - they haven't done much in the way of modernising it since they bought it.

    [/QUOTE]


    That is an incredible increase you would be lucky to get £200k for the house I bought for £8k in 1972 I think £2400 was average house price in 1959 and was £7300 in 1972.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 3 April 2010 at 9:28PM
    ukcarper wrote: »
    That is an incredible increase you would be lucky to get £200k for the house I bought for £8k in 1972 I think £2400 was average house price in 1959 and was £7300 in 1972.

    Average house prices from 1970 til 2000......

    1970 4,975
    1971 5,632
    1972 7,374
    1973 9,942
    1974 10,990
    1975 11,787
    1976 12,704
    1977 13,650
    1978 15,594
    1979 19,925
    1980 23,596
    1981 24,188
    1982 23,644
    1983 26,471
    1984 29,106
    1985 31,103
    1986 36,276
    1987 40,391
    1988 49,355
    1989 54,846
    1990 59,785
    1991 62,455
    1992 61,336
    1993 62,333
    1994 64,787
    1995 65,644
    1996 70,626
    1997 76,103
    1998 81,774
    1999 92,521
    2000 101,550

    The more interesting series is as follows......

    1970 4,975

    1980 23,596

    1990 59,785

    2000 101,550

    2010 167,000

    The increases over the last decade are far from exceptional.......
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  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    Inflation is theft


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  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    Bought first house a semi in 1971 - cost 7,400 on a 5,000 mortgage - very embarrassing two surnames on the mortgage that were not the same. Mind you that was 3x male salary and 0.5x female salary.
    Sold house one for 11,000 in 1974. What a struggle getting a mortgage. Strangely it was the Leeds B.S., which had a savings account that broke the cartel and paid an extra quarter percent interest, that won the mortgage race of 3.5 months to lend 11,000 on a 16,000 detached wreck.

    Interest was tax allowable in those halcyon :rotfl:times.
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