Student Housing and House Prices

tara747

I have to say, I am finding this a fascinating thread and I am interested to read all your views on the subject.

wageslave

tara747 wrote: »

Umm, you are coming across as very overprotective - the bits highlighted in bold are a bit worrying. Is your daughter totally incapable of doing things for herself? You say she can't even boil a kettle (please tell me you're exaggerating - but if not, now might be the time to teach her how to look after herself).

There is nothing worse than parents hovering in the background over their 'children' who are 18 years old i.e. adults in the eyes of the law. If they're not attending admissions interviews with them (!!!!!!) they're writing to their local MPs asking them to try to get little Johnny/Mary a place when they've been turned down. I have a lot of friends working in the HE sector and the stories they tell you are embarrassing. I think parents are infantilising their sons and daughters. If they're not emotionally and mentally capable of looking after themselves, for goodness' sake don't let them go into HE!!

I would guess that your daughter is far less worried about all of this than you are. So relax and enjoy her last few months at home before starting university. There is massive competition for places this year anyway, she might not even get in and then you will have nothing to worry about (*joke!*).

p.s. you mention travel costs. Surely for £4k a term (shockingly expensive imho) she will be on campus??

Overprotective? Moi?

Now you're just being plain silly;)

I was exagerrating about the kettle thingy, she can actually fill it and switch it on. She just hasn't a clue what to do with the water once it is actually boiling

As to travelling costs, she will be coming home every weekend. Won't she?

In all seriousity:p let's look at this from a parents point of view.

You spend pretty much your entire adult life devoting yourself to the care and safety of this vunerable, bright, slightly spoiled, wholly selfish little person and then suddenly you are expected to pack them off to a strange city with a wave and a tenner.

Oh honey, on whose planet does it work that way? Certainly not on Planet Parent.

Inevitably we worry and fuss and do our best to do what we have always done. Keep our offspring safe, fed and marginally clean.

The fact we are going to have to do it from 200 miles away just adds to the challenge

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

tara747 wrote: »

There is no housing shortage in the UK.
.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Current shortfall is one million houses.

Increasing at a rate of about 150,000 houses a year.

Last year 408,000 people were added to the population, 250,000 new households were formed, and less than 100,000 houses built.

Every year we add the population of a city the size of Manchester, and build enough houses to house the population of Aberdeen.

silvercar

wageslave wrote: »

Overprotective? Moi?

Now you're just being plain silly;)

I was exagerrating about the kettle thingy, she can actually fill it and switch it on. She just hasn't a clue what to do with the water once it is actually boiling

As to travelling costs, she will be coming home every weekend. Won't she?

In all seriousity:p let's look at this from a parents point of view.

You spend pretty much your entire adult life devoting yourself to the care and safety of this vunerable, bright, slightly spoiled, wholly selfish little person and then suddenly you are expected to pack them off to a strange city with a wave and a tenner.

Oh honey, on whose planet does it work that way? Certainly not on Planet Parent.

Inevitably we worry and fuss and do our best to do what we have always done. Keep our offspring safe, fed and marginally clean.

The fact we are going to have to do it from 200 miles away just adds to the challenge

Believe me they manage. They may not have 5 portions of veg a day or even 3 (unless you include ketchup as one and the orange in vodka and orange as the second), but they cope. They may not change their sheets weekly and the decomposing food in their room may look like a chemisty lab, but they survive the experience.

The more cosseted they were at the start, the more valuable the experience.

Remember they have the umbilical cord (AKA mobile phone) perm. attached; its just on their terms not yours.

tara747

wageslave wrote: »

Overprotective? Moi?

Now you're just being plain silly;)

I was exagerrating about the kettle thingy, she can actually fill it and switch it on. She just hasn't a clue what to do with the water once it is actually boiling

As to travelling costs, she will be coming home every weekend. Won't she?

In all seriousity:p let's look at this from a parents point of view.

You spend pretty much your entire adult life devoting yourself to the care and safety of this vunerable, bright, slightly spoiled, wholly selfish little person and then suddenly you are expected to pack them off to a strange city with a wave and a tenner.

Oh honey, on whose planet does it work that way? Certainly not on Planet Parent.

Inevitably we worry and fuss and do our best to do what we have always done. Keep our offspring safe, fed and marginally clean.

The fact we are going to have to do it from 200 miles away just adds to the challenge

It does work. Sure, you will worry - my parents did, but they managed to let me go and I was just under 18. At 19 (and 10 months), I went abroad to study for a year (compulsory on my course) between second and final year - did they worry? Of course! Did I survive? Yes. She will be fine.

As for travelling 200 miles home every weekend, erm, I doubt it!! :rotfl:Do you really want her to do that?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Current shortfall is one million houses.

Increasing at a rate of about 150,000 houses a year.

Last year 408,000 people were added to the population, 250,000 new households were formed, and less than 100,000 houses built.

Every year we add the population of a city the size of Manchester, and build enough houses to house the population of Aberdeen.

Oh gosh, I must have missed the hundreds of thousands of homeless people on the streets who, despite having a job, have no home. :rotfl:

silvercar wrote: »

Believe me they manage. They may not have 5 portions of veg a day or even 3 (unless you include ketchup as one and the orange in vodka and orange as the second), but they cope. They may not change their sheets weekly and the decomposing food in their room may look like a chemisty lab, but they survive the experience.

The more cosseted they were at the start, the more valuable the experience.

Remember they have the umbilical cord (AKA mobile phone) perm. attached; its just on their terms not yours.

+1

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

tara747 wrote: »

Oh gosh, I must have missed the hundreds of thousands of homeless people on the streets who, despite having a job, have no home. :rotfl:

Ahhh, I see you have also confused the shortage of housing, which is real, with the shortage of bedrooms, which of course doesn't exist.....

Don't worry, it's a mistake commonly made around here.:rotfl:

There is no shortage of housing, IF you define a shortage of housing as meaning one bedroom exists for every person or couple in Britain.

But if you define the shortage as being there are not enough homes of the right type, in the places where people want to live, and where the employment exists to support them, then there is a huge shortage.;)

Lokolo

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Ahhh, I see you have also confused the shortage of housing, which is real, with the shortage of bedrooms, which of course doesn't exist.....

Don't worry, it's a mistake commonly made around here.:rotfl:

There is no shortage of housing, IF you define a shortage of housing as meaning one bedroom exists for every person or couple in Britain.

But if you define the shortage as being there are not enough homes of the right type, in the places where people want to live, and where the employment exists to support them, then there is a huge shortage.;)

I want a 4 bedroom house with an indoor swimming pool and acres of land around me. With local walks and ponds around.

I also want it less than £100k.

Theres not a shortage if people expanded their horizons.

I currently live with 1 guy that doesn't talk to me, 1 guy that goes to bed at 2am and gets up at 7am with a firealarm like alarm every morning.

The fact is, if people weren't so fussy, we'd all have somewhere.

silvercar

Hamish wrote:

But if you define the shortage as being there are not enough homes of the right type, in the places where people want to live, and where the employment exists to support them, then there is a huge shortage

and that is what forces house prices up, in general, in the long term....(lots of caveats)......

Lokolo

silvercar wrote: »

and that is what forces house prices up, in general, in the long term....(lots of caveats)......

and screws young people like me over!

I think theres going to be a lot of renting for the younger generation, this would slow down house price rising.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Lokolo wrote: »

and screws young people like me over!

I think theres going to be a lot of renting for the younger generation, this would slow down house price rising.

But force up rent prices. Which increases yield. Which makes it a more attractive investment. Which leads to greater interest from investors, who compete for houses to buy and let out, which raises house prices.;)