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  • Trish1968
    Trish1968 Posts: 77 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Thanks so much for the advise. Also I have got my figures completly wrong. I keep saying we will hold 20% but £100k is only 20% of half the business. If it was sold we would only get 10% so our investments back and 5 years is not enough time to have made enough repayments to make this profitable, along with the risk not such a good prospect I think.
  • Batchy
    Batchy Posts: 1,632 Forumite
    edited 31 March 2010 at 1:13PM
    There are many different ways to make investment decisions, and lots of information available to help you on your way.

    Payback,
    NPV
    Risk assessment?
    Audited Accounts
    Budgets, sales expectations and costs (flex them)
    Cash Flow Forecasts
    Looking at order books, for future sustainability
    Directors/management representation
    Legal disputes? outstanding, one bad decision could leave you with your pants pulled down?
    What area of business are they in, if its CAR PARTS, probably doomed, as manufacturers are making less, Food however is a good one, unless tied to one customer ie, tesco's (high risk).
    Room for growth?
    Industry benchmarks
    Locality
    Government future legislation, and its effects on the company? is it green? sustainable
    Commitments, lease's, bank covenants, future obligations, factoring debts, etc, etc?
    Dividend policy and history? underperforming? not paying out? no dividends
    Bad Debts?
    CASH AT BANK?
    Pension obligations (deficits)
    Debtors and creditors days sales outstanding
    Liquidity ratios
    Rate of return
    etc
    Most companies do not go bust because they make no profit for one year, while they have a shake down, they go bust as they run out of CASH, they made mistakes on when it was needed and how they could finance it.

    SO much more than this to consider, but should open you eyes as to where you need to look, and also where an accountant would be looking and the information he would require.

    The best way, is to make a business plan, and create a big picture, or ask for one, 5 year plan, 5 years worth of budgets/ cash flow forecasts/ etc, etc.
    Plan
    1) Get most competitive Lifetime Mortgage (Done)
    2) Make healthy savings, spend wisely (Doing)
    3) Ensure healthy pension fund - (Doing)
    4) Ensure house is nice, suitable, safe, and located - (Done)
    5) Keep everyone happy, healthy and entertained (Done, Doing, Going to do)
  • Batchy
    Batchy Posts: 1,632 Forumite
    PNPSUKNET wrote: »
    Have you ever seen dragons den? Worth looking up, as a director myself it is very risky. Never believe the partners valuation get a independant to value it. If the partner is fed up there are reasons behind this, and normaly not good ones.

    Its better to pay an account £150 and find issues than invest and find huge ones

    150 for what? 30 mins of his time? your not going to get much advice for 150...
    Plan
    1) Get most competitive Lifetime Mortgage (Done)
    2) Make healthy savings, spend wisely (Doing)
    3) Ensure healthy pension fund - (Doing)
    4) Ensure house is nice, suitable, safe, and located - (Done)
    5) Keep everyone happy, healthy and entertained (Done, Doing, Going to do)
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