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RSI/stress/depression/sick leave options and consequences

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  • cally6008
    cally6008 Posts: 7,629 Forumite
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    bendix - yep
  • bendix wrote: »
    The caps were used for emphasis, because I was making the point that you were describing your depression, not anyone else's.

    Is paranoia a common feature of depression also?


    Yes it can be, there's loads of information on the web if you want to learn more, the NHS sites are very good.
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    whoooooooosh . . . .
  • katrina123
    katrina123 Posts: 108 Forumite
    Meeting with manager went well. Occupational Health will be getting involved asap about the computer pain. She explained her personal problems and work ones too, she could have taken the rest of week off as "unfit to work" and would therefore need sick note to back it up, doctors appointment is in few days, so she was unsure if she would actually get a sick note, she has no experience of this kind of thing. Manager was polite and respectful and fair, so she agreed to:

    They agreed to a reduced hours week this week, taking off the hours from her holiday allowance. Then seeing doctor this week and see what is suggested.

    If she goes part time on days, she will be made to take a pay cut she was told.
    Can they do this? (She works evenings currently). Day staff earn a littel less than night staff (of those who were employed on similar contracts). But there are workers who do the same job, who are on different salaries, ranging from less than 15k to 20somethingK. Which is unfair, wouldnt you say? Apparently some workers were transferred from other departments and locations, and they were allowed to keep their high salary level, and some new employees were employed on hugely less salarys, so theres a workforce, same job titles, who earn wildly diff amounts. Is this cause for concern? Seems if some people were allowed to keep their salary level, an evening worker on less than 15k will be on even less pro rata, if he/she decides to go part time on days?
  • SueC_2
    SueC_2 Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    katrina123 wrote: »
    If she goes part time on days, she will be made to take a pay cut she was told.
    Can they do this? (She works evenings currently). Day staff earn a littel less than night staff (of those who were employed on similar contracts). But there are workers who do the same job, who are on different salaries, ranging from less than 15k to 20somethingK. Which is unfair, wouldnt you say? Apparently some workers were transferred from other departments and locations, and they were allowed to keep their high salary level, and some new employees were employed on hugely less salarys, so theres a workforce, same job titles, who earn wildly diff amounts. Is this cause for concern? Seems if some people were allowed to keep their salary level, an evening worker on less than 15k will be on even less pro rata, if he/she decides to go part time on days?

    In answer to your first question - yes they can, and it would be unusual for any employer not to. Your daughter will be working less hours, and will be losing any 'unsociable hours' element of her remuneration. Of course she should expect to earn less.

    As for your other point - it is completely normal for different employees to earn different salaries for what may appear to be similar duties. There can be any number of reasons for this, but so long as they aren't those legally defined as being discriminatory (gender, marriage or civil partnership, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity leave, sexual orientation, disability, race, colour, ethnic background, nationality, religion or belief, age) they are completely legitimate and acceptable. Fair doesn't come into it I'm afraid (as my mum used to say "no-one ever said life would be fair").

    It is each employee's responsibility to negotiate the best possible package for themself, and this is generally best achieved by highlighting the value they bring to the company as opposed to moaning about what other people earn.
  • katrina123
    katrina123 Posts: 108 Forumite
    Yes she knows she will earn less with less hours, but the total salary will be less. Do you know what I mean? For example, 15k now, but it will be 14.5k when she goes part time, and she will recieve a fraction of 14.5k pro rata based on the hours she does.

    In comparison to : the salary remaining the same, and just earning pro rata with less hours.

    Good points made, thanks.
  • jdturk
    jdturk Posts: 1,636 Forumite
    I would hazard a guess that the people who had been moved from other departments may have been moved on the say so of the employer hence the keeping of the same wage whereas your daugher is asking to change hours to accomidate her hence her having to change her salary.
    Always ask ACAS
  • katrina123
    katrina123 Posts: 108 Forumite
    Hi again, my daughter has been asked to go in and see the Occupational Health Advisor this week. She is still covered for sick leave for rest of week.

    Should she go?
    And if she does, what will be expected in the meeting?
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