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CHOCOLATE. What now

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  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
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    Dam you kraft for buying cadburys, supermarkets own brand chocolate is fine and so is the value/basics version
  • jezza2412
    jezza2412 Posts: 238 Forumite
    kittie wrote: »
    Have you noticed the big changes on the T confectionary counters? Some of the best chocolate has been taken off and replaced by rubbish MILKA made by kraft. It wasn`t long before T and kraft got got together. Have a good look at the changes. Kraft also owns suchard which took over tobler.

    American rubbish
    pruney wrote: »
    I'm confused, surely all Cadburys products are now Kraft products, didn't they buy them out? I only buy cadburys if it's on a good offer, much prefer Galaxy or if I'm really treating myself, Lindt. Lindt lindor are my favourites, particularly the eggs as you get more of the inside loveliness.

    I'm with Pruney here: totally confused about this thread. Which products have actually disappeared from Tesco shelves? Cadbury? I still see all the usual Cadbury products there.

    If Kittie is saying that there's some sort of arrangement between Tesco and Kraft, then surely, as Kraft do indeed own Cadbury, that would be even better for Cadbury lovers who shop at Tesco?...
  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    DCFC79 wrote: »
    Dam you kraft for buying cadburys,

    I see it the other way, kraft can only buy what people are willing to sell.

    So damn those who sold out to the yanks for a quick profit.
  • jenniewb
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    I see it from another angle completely, Kraft are the directors but do not control eerything, they will only produce what sells.

    I see if from the same point of view as Fashion. Stella McCartney, well known for her vegetarianism is owned by Gucci, loved for their leather handbags and even use of fur. Gucci own alot of brands, some use leather, some do not. Fact is as a fashion designer, you need financial backing to get anywhere- you need to show the designs you make and without a massive fashion house like Gucci funding you, you just don't stand a chance, no one would see your work, no one would take you seriously, no one would trust you with their money, that you could deliver.

    I'd guess it was the same with Kraft/Cadburys. One owns the other but as far as deciding exactly what goes into the brand, they will only make what sells. If the ingredients change and it doesn't sell, then would be a good time to take a stand, but not IMO just because they have a different funder.

    But then its like everything, each to their own...and I guess I can't talk- I don't even eat the stuff!
  • foxgloves
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    I like green & Black's and also the Divine fair trade chocolate, but have mostly swapped onto Co-op own brand choc as it's all fair trade, nice & not too expensive. A favourite in our house is their own brand white chocolate with crispy bits in. Their little bars of fairtrade choc with caramel filling is nice too.
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  • geordie_joe
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    jenniewb wrote: »
    I see it from another angle completely, Kraft are the directors but do not control eerything, they will only produce what sells.

    But they can also stop producing what sells in order to increase the market share of their own brands. There have been many instances where a company has bought out a rival and either just closed it down, or converted it's output to their own brand.

    I'm pretty sure kraft promised not to close one of the Cadbury factories just before the take over, then a week after the take over they closed it.
    jenniewb wrote: »
    Fact is as a fashion designer, you need financial backing to get anywhere- you need to show the designs you make and without a massive fashion house like Gucci funding you, you just don't stand a chance, no one would see your work, no one would take you seriously, no one would trust you with their money, that you could deliver.

    Cadbury didn't need a financial backer to get get them publicity, nor did they have a problem with people not trusting them, or being taken seriously. And they had a reputation, built up over many decades, of delivering a product people wanted to buy.
  • I always preferred the taste of Cadbury's chocolate to other brands such as Mars Confectionery and Nestle. I wonder if Kraft will change the recipes and use cheaper ingredients to pay for their takeover?
  • realised
    realised Posts: 474 Forumite
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    I did eat half of a milka bar before aimlessly reading the ingredients and realising there was no "suitable for vegetarian" sign on it.

    :eek:
  • Coopdivi
    Coopdivi Posts: 3,412 Forumite
    Cadbury's chocolate contains 20% cocoa solids and 20% milk solids. Also contaiuns vegetable fat.

    Milka chocolate contains 30% cocoa solids and 18% milk solids.. Also contains hazelnut paste.

    Which ones got the rubbish in?
  • Clowance
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    Coopdivi wrote: »
    Cadbury's chocolate contains 20% cocoa solids and 20% milk solids. Also contaiuns vegetable fat.

    Milka chocolate contains 30% cocoa solids and 18% milk solids.. Also contains hazelnut paste.

    Which ones got the rubbish in?

    We all know that cadburys is not well thought of by those who like "proper chocolate" - but personal preference is just as valid, its not full of e numbers just fat and sugar like all chocolate! Some like galaxy, some like swiss or belgian, but I like Cadburys (and Green and Blacks, too) and don't want the recipe altered. Cadburys Dairy Milk bought in the USA is NOT the same as ours, but still eons better than Hershey. I think the point of this thread is that cadbury lovers are afraid the recipe will alter.
    If it does - I can't go for alternatives as I don't like them!
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