270,000 Civil Service Workers To Strike For 2 Days

Old_Slaphead

The public sector T&Cs of employment really are on another planet.

This country will never see recovery until this mess is sorted out and public/private sector have similar arrangements.

kabayiri

So this is the first battleground over, what, £500m of savings?

It doesn't bode well for the remaining £60bn deficit halving needed in the coming years does it?

There are 2 perceptions which I encounter from friends in the public sector :-
a) what recession ?
b) it's the bankers fault anyway; why should I suffer?

Convincing people to share the burden is going to be a long hard slog.

StevieJ

abaxas wrote: »

So what you are saying is that our employment law disadvnatages business? I think you are right.

Maybe time for a more level playing field?

Rubbish, business have had things more or less their own way since Thatcher, you can tell by their intense lobbying every time the minimum wage goes up a penny It has even got to the point where for some the govt is paying half their wage bill :eek:

StevieJ

phatbear wrote: »

personally im going in today, dont tell the boss though as it will be a nice suprise when I turn up, but thats purely a matter of economics I cant afford to lose a few hundred quid for 2 days off work when the stirke will have zero impact, when was the last time industrial actions worked anywhere is the point I keep making to my more miltant colleagues

Certainly not going to work with characters like you around

lemonjelly

StevieJ wrote: »

Rubbish, business have had things more or less their own way since Thatcher, you can tell by their intense lobbying every time the minimum wage goes up a penny It has even got to the point where for some the govt is paying half their wage bill :eek:

:T
Brilliant point StevieJ.

The private sector is supported by the public purse.
Tax credits & the like make wages up to a liveable amount, owing to the failure of most firms to refuse to pay a living wage.

& how many private firms sub-contract work from government agencies, to make a fat profit, without delivering the service owing to "costs"? Loads.

Anyone arguing the private sector is the saviour is delusional. The private sector in the main focuses on its own profits, & leeches off its employees & society.

phatbear

StevieJ wrote: »

Certainly not going to work with characters like you around

Its not going to work because less than 10% of the whole affected areas of the civil service voted in favour of this action and of those 10% that voted for it I would happily bet a meat and potatoe pie that half of them will still turn up for work.

The_White_Horse

cosyc wrote: »

Shame on you.

exactly!!! more like 99%.

tomterm8

kabayiri wrote: »

So this is the first battleground over, what, £500m of savings?
...
Convincing people to share the burden is going to be a long hard slog.

Alternatively, since you don't have to pay people during a strike, its a nice windfall saving to the deficit.

ILW

A friend of mone within a local authority has been given the job of getting all management staff to have to write a report explaining what they actually do, and it's value and relevance to the organisation. Many are struggling.

StevieJ

tomterm8 wrote: »

Alternatively, since you don't have to pay people during a strike, its a nice windfall saving to the deficit.

Not if they work in the taxation dept (I know much of it is automated).