Stopping my claim for CSA

declutterqueen

Hi guys,
Hope you can help.
I am the PWC, I havent had a penny of NRP for 12 months, CSA dont seam to be bothered about chasing for it,
I was thinking of closing the case, letting NRP think he has got away with it, and opening it up again when he gets back to work, he quit his job and says he is self employed and only earns £100 even tho he has bought himself loads of quads and cars and is out on the town every weekend.
any thoughts?

missmontana

I wouldn't close it, can you just "suspend" it? Not sure if that is possible. (that way he'd have to pay arrears if he went back to being employed)

Surely he'd just do the same thing all over again the next time you open up a claim?

Is that £100 per week/month...?

declutterqueen

100 a week

missmontana

So, if he's earning £100 pw, he could be making some sort of payment towards the child/ren, how many? A token payment of £5 pw would be better than nothing.
I think the CSA can look to see if he is living a lifestyle above his means, like you say, buying cars etc.

Is there anything else you take into account when working out child maintenance?
"where a non-resident parent’s lifestyle suggests they have access to more money or a higher income than the income we used to work out child maintenance"


Collect all the evidence you can to show them he has more money than he says.

speedster

sounds to me like the nrp is LTD rather than SE.

i would strongly advise trying to come to a private agreement as you face a long, hard and probably fruitless battle as the csa struggle like hell with SE let alone LTD.

your initial post appears that you are rightly peeved, but all you're gonna do is create possibly years of avoidable aggro.

don't end up bitter and twisted like my ex and some of the idiots on here who have ended up full of venom and lost focus on the real issue. try to focus on what's best for the child/ren as csa involvement generally destroys any ammicability between separated parents.

wiping out csa involvement can benefit your child/ren from 2 parents who aren't constantly warring over money if you handle the situation properly then everyone's a winner.

try approaching the NRP with an offer to get shot of the csa and see if willing to enter into a money and or supply agreement.

declutterqueen

thanks for your replies, been in and out of court with this muppet for 4 years, lost my house and everything of any money value, cant work as its not worth it, and he has not paid for over 12 months,
gone past caring now, kids havent had any birthday or christmas gifts for 3 years and he wont pay unless I back down and let him see the kids unsupervised, which I wont because he has a conviction and he is a complete lier and has shown the kids how unreliable he is. so kids no longer wish to see him, its been a long battle and I just want peace,
thanks

speedster

if it's peace you're after then i fail to see how banging your head against the csa brick wall is gonna bring you any.

seems that it's not peace you're after, but a bit of payback.

declutterqueen

Well thats the whole point.. I am not getting anywhere with them at all, I rang them today for a update and apparently he has given them a load of lies too so there is a Criminal Inspector on the case now, they say its a fraud case.

Please dont judge me Speedster, I have lost everything this last 12 months, I would not wish what we have been through on my worst enemy, specially what my children have been through.
Boils down to another father not paying for his children, if I stopped paying for things for them.. who would get done for neglect.. yes the mother, who cares for them in everyway, only payback i want is some money for my children, so they can do extra stuff I cant afford, like music lessons and judo.. its not as if I go out drinking every weekend or buying new cars and bikes.. I cant.. and wont if I cant afford it.BECAUSE... MY KIDS COME FIRST.. if you got nothing else to say dont bother.

declutterqueen

missmontana wrote: »

So, if he's earning £100 pw, he could be making some sort of payment towards the child/ren, how many? A token payment of £5 pw would be better than nothing.
I think the CSA can look to see if he is living a lifestyle above his means, like you say, buying cars etc.

Is there anything else you take into account when working out child maintenance?
"where a non-resident parent’s lifestyle suggests they have access to more money or a higher income than the income we used to work out child maintenance"


Collect all the evidence you can to show them he has more money than he says.

Yes I have given them all the evidenced today they say they have passed the case to A criminal Inspector, so guess they will do something, he is a devient, I was thinking if i stopped my case and restarted it in 12 months time it might catch him out thats all, I dont have contact with him and every step of the way he has been so childish and there is no reasoning with him, he wouldnt even come to the hospital when his son was ill because I was there, because I know what he is and what he has done to peoples children. he knows I cant say anything about the case because im bound by court, LAW is all wrong!

2 children involved was ment to be giving me £5 a week since june whoopeeee!! can do loads with that!! yet a round of drinks down HIS local.. no problem...

Who knows what will happen.. my kids dont miss out on much, but I do, I cant remember when I had enough money to even think about buying new clothes!


just waiting for the Karma to sort him out no one else seams to care, this country is in a right mess.. not just CSA,Benefits system, banks and NHS.. Flippin joke the lot of it.

Sorry for the rant.. just fed up now..
Will be ok after a cuddle off the kiddies!

CSA_Help

I'm a NRP

Sorry i know you are frustrated

The CSA can only follow their own law and legislation .The CSA forces a lot of NRP's into self employment and therefore hostilities between parties .

In my opinion criminal compliance is a waste of time and effort as my ex tried that with me and had nothing to go on .

Have you supplied them evidence of his company and possibly what he earns

speedster

declutterqueen wrote: »

Well thats the whole point.. I am not getting anywhere with them at all, I rang them today for a update and apparently he has given them a load of lies too so there is a Criminal Inspector on the case now, they say its a fraud case.

Please dont judge me Speedster, I have lost everything this last 12 months, I would not wish what we have been through on my worst enemy, specially what my children have been through.
Boils down to another father not paying for his children, if I stopped paying for things for them.. who would get done for neglect.. yes the mother, who cares for them in everyway, only payback i want is some money for my children, so they can do extra stuff I cant afford, like music lessons and judo.. its not as if I go out drinking every weekend or buying new cars and bikes.. I cant.. and wont if I cant afford it.BECAUSE... MY KIDS COME FIRST.. if you got nothing else to say dont bother.

i'm not judging, just observing and commenting on a "public forum" i don't appreciate being told what and what not to post. if you don't like the responses either a. join a wimmin's forum where you'll get all the sympathy you need, or b. don't post your problems on a "public forum"

i'm just pointing out the way it appears to outsiders and offering another viewpoint. whether you like it or not is up to you. chasing an errant SE nrp is going to consume a lot of time and make you even more bitter. because, believe me, if you want the useless chimps at the csa to get a penny out of him, you'll be on the phone to them virtually everyday, appeals, tribunals, variations, etc, etc, etc. which is what i meant about consuming a lot of time and effort and stressing you out no end, which wont help the children one bit.

my mate gave up trying to get a penny off his ex wife after 3 years of banging his head on the csa wall and immediately found a sense of satisfaction by saying "stuff her and the system" he became less stressed, angry and frustrated and has his childrens upmost respects for him who now think the absent parent is a good for nothing scumbag.

that in itself, to him, is worth far more than what the csa would ever have got out of his ex.