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  • Disregarding the rights and wrongs of Lord Ashcroft's position - this is my favourite blog about it - it's from a Tory rightwinger who posts his blogs in the form of a letter in this case addressed to George Osborne and Steve Hilton

    Well worth a read - if you don't already read him.

    http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2010/03/02/lord-ashcroft-has-really-shafted-the-conservatives/
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    A friend of mine thinks that Labour are more corrupt because they are from less wealthy backgrounds than the Tories.

    :rotfl::rotfl:

    This 'friend' of yours - its not Jeffrey Archer or Jonathon Aitkin is it.

    Even the least trust worthy Labour politicians (I'm thinking Mandelson, Blair) are hardly on the breadline.

    A little history would show you how almost all the "Rotten Boroughs" of the early 19th Century were Tory seats, including Old Sarum where there was just 3 houses and 7 voters to elect not one but two MP's.

    Does this 'friend' of yours have any other pearls of wisdom that he can share.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
  • I cannot believe after the electoral commission have cleared Lord Ashcroft of any wrongdoing that Labour are still banging on about this.

    It's becoming very boring now.

    I've got an ISA, ooh I should be paying more tax come and shoot me now.

    Mandleson did things with his mortgage that would have landed most people in prison - his faux outrage on the news every 30 minutes was funny to begin with - now it's just tedious.

    Couldn't give a monkeys who knew what and when and I suspect I'm not alone.
  • nickmason
    nickmason Posts: 848 Forumite
    edited 4 March 2010 at 7:00PM
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl:

    This 'friend' of yours - its not Jeffrey Archer or Jonathon Aitkin is it.

    Even the least trust worthy Labour politicians (I'm thinking Mandelson, Blair) are hardly on the breadline.

    A little history would show you how almost all the "Rotten Boroughs" of the early 19th Century were Tory seats, including Old Sarum where there was just 3 houses and 7 voters to elect not one but two MP's.

    Does this 'friend' of yours have any other pearls of wisdom that he can share.

    I think the received wisdom [sic] used to be that Conservative's tended to be morally corrupt, while Labour were more inclined towards financial corruption.
    Sweeping generalisation (I think based on the idea that the story had more legs when it related to corruption forbidden by "their own" - ie Conservatives losing the self-adopted moral high ground, or Labourites seeking wealth) but that was the idea.

    These days, the wealth of Labour MPs that coincided (not by accident) with New Labour, plus the move within the Conservative party towards liberalism and away from moralistic paternalism, has probably shaken that generalisation to death; just as generalisations arising from the early 19th century (that relate to a Tory vs Liberal split, rather than a Conservative vs Labour one - in that sense there are two very distinct meanings of "Tory", one historic, one short-hand for Conservative(& Unionist) ) are completely meaningless now.
  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    Here is the report - parts of it are quite interesting...Tory officials declining to be interviewed...

    http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/87219/Case-Summary---Bearwood-Corporate-Services.pdf


    To put some balance in the Tories state they were asked to be interviewed, questioned the need for it, and never heard back.
    "There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
    "I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
    "The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
    "A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "
  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    kennyboy66 wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl:

    This 'friend' of yours - its not Jeffrey Archer or Jonathon Aitkin is it.

    Even the least trust worthy Labour politicians (I'm thinking Mandelson, Blair) are hardly on the breadline.

    A little history would show you how almost all the "Rotten Boroughs" of the early 19th Century were Tory seats, including Old Sarum where there was just 3 houses and 7 voters to elect not one but two MP's.

    Does this 'friend' of yours have any other pearls of wisdom that he can share.

    But be fair, the Labour Party did not exist then. Had it existed I am sure it would have had more than its fair share too.
    "There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
    "I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
    "The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
    "A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "
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