We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Had a phone call from my Lender...

I had a phone-call from my Lender today I am three years into a five year fix and they offered to fix me in for another five years with no charges. Is this a sign of the times, are banks going to start looking after their exisiting good customers rather then chasing new custom and letting the new ones have the best rates??
«1

Comments

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,893 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Umm, what rate are you on and what did they offer?

    Timeo danaos et dona ferentes
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • They have offered 5.34% for 5 years.
  • They have offered 5.34% for 5 years.

    If they're proactively trying to lock you in to another 5 years at that rate, it's pretty clear they don't expect rates to rise any time soon.

    They're probably worried you'll jump to a base plus 2% tracker, and cut your costs in half.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    If they're proactively trying to lock you in to another 5 years at that rate, it's pretty clear they don't expect rates to rise any time soon.

    They buy the money at todays rate don't they? Therefore, whether they think rates will rise of not is neither here nor there. They have calculated a profit margin on the rate they have offered.

    I think I am right in saying that if the OP goes in for this offer, if rates are at 15% in 2 years time, as an example, the bank will not be loosing any money on his loan.
  • I think I am right in saying that if the OP goes in for this offer, if rates are at 15% in 2 years time, as an example, the bank will not be loosing any money on his loan.

    Banks typically have to roll over the money they borrow every couple of years.

    If they expect rates to be at 15% in 2 years, there is no way in hell they'd fix at 5% for 5 years now.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Banks typically have to roll over the money they borrow every couple of years.

    If they expect rates to be at 15% in 2 years, there is no way in hell they'd fix at 5% for 5 years now.

    I don't think anyone is expecting 15% rates in 2 years time. I was only, as I said using it as an example.

    I can only take it my thinking was right, as you ignored that bit and concentrated on what I said was a simple example.
  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    I had a letter from my bank a couple of weeks ago offering me a loan because they are worried I may be suffering from a lack of luxury items I can't afford.

    First I have had for ages.
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 28 February 2010 at 11:17PM
    May be a Building Society (or even a bank) balancing mortgages against 5 year savings rather than the wholesale market. Who's the lender and what's your loan to value G&T..?
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 1 March 2010 at 12:22AM
    I'm more impressed they phoned you on a Sunday, which lender is it?
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,893 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    They have offered 5.34% for 5 years.

    What are you paying currently?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.