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Do baby boomers feel guilty about shafting younger generations?

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  • wageslave wrote: »
    But what about those that are coming after you? Your son or daughter. Don't they matter?
    .

    Unless you are expecting a sudden mass outbreak of people leaving houses in their will to the local cat shelter.......

    Those coming after will be just fine.;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • vivatifosi
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    wageslave wrote: »
    At the risk of sounding like a total see-you-next-tuesday, I'd be bliddy furious.

    I can put up with my Ma buying lispy Santas from QVC and tacky jewellry but if I thought she was wasting every penny, I'd be extremely cross.

    I would expect my daughter to feel exactly the same.

    It may be politically correct to say no one owes us anything but I don't see it as particularly realistic. You bring a child into this world and, by christ, you owe them.

    You owe them a decent upbringing, a decent example and a decent start.

    You want to blow everything on scratchcards, don't have kids

    Your parents are probably a lot wealthier than mine wageslave. Mine still have a mortgage and my dad still works even though he's past retirement age. I'd just much rather they did an equity draw down of some sort and lived a more comfortable life. Nothing to do with scratchcards, my lot aren't that wasteful. I just don't need the money as much as they do.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • ukcarper
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    Kohoutek wrote: »
    Because they've been running the country and dictating education policy for the last 13 years, or the last 20 if you include John Major (is born 1943 a boomer?).
    That's all of the babyboomers is it? I would put the blame at the feet of the politicians but not babyboomer in general.
  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Your parents are probably a lot wealthier than mine wageslave. Mine still have a mortgage and my dad still works even though he's past retirement age. I'd just much rather they did an equity draw down of some sort and lived a more comfortable life. Nothing to do with scratchcards, my lot aren't that wasteful. I just don't need the money as much as they do.

    I accept, the whole wealthier thing. But I am not and every time I make a financial decision that will impact on my daughters life, I agonise and sit her down and make umpteen excuses for doing what I did.

    One question.

    Would your parents be happy spending every penny they have scrimped and saved to leave you bug ger all?

    Cleaver is right, as far as I can see. We are hardwired to help the next generation. And they are hard wired to expect it.

    Doesn't make any of us bad people
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • Malcolm.
    Malcolm. Posts: 1,079 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Your parents are probably a lot wealthier than mine wageslave. Mine still have a mortgage and my dad still works even though he's past retirement age. I'd just much rather they did an equity draw down of some sort and lived a more comfortable life. Nothing to do with scratchcards, my lot aren't that wasteful. I just don't need the money as much as they do.

    Equity drawdown has some bad press, although not as much as sale and rent back. If you're wealthier than your parents, could you increase the mortgage on your own home to give them money in the knowledge you'll inherit their home.
  • ukcarper
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    wageslave wrote: »
    I accept, the whole wealthier thing. But I am not and every time I make a financial decision that will impact on my daughters life, I agonise and sit her down and make umpteen excuses for doing what I did.

    One question.

    Would your parents be happy spending every penny they have scrimped and saved to leave you bug ger all?

    Cleaver is right, as far as I can see. We are hardwired to help the next generation. And they are hard wired to expect it.

    Doesn't make any of us bad people

    I think you may be partly right we are hard wired to help the next generation but I'm not so sure we are hard wired to expect it I don't.
  • Malcolm.
    Malcolm. Posts: 1,079 Forumite
    edited 19 February 2010 at 11:44PM
    wageslave wrote: »
    Cleaver is right, as far as I can see. We are hardwired to help the next generation. And they are hard wired to expect it.

    In the main I agree.

    I have seen some people who couldn't care less for their own offspring, let alone the next generation.
  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    Viva, on a completely different note, did you watch the channel 4 thing on traveller weddings last night?

    How did it make you feel?

    Dont answer if it is too personal
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    wageslave wrote: »
    I accept, the whole wealthier thing. But I am not and every time I make a financial decision that will impact on my daughters life, I agonise and sit her down and make umpteen excuses for doing what I did.

    One question.

    Would your parents be happy spending every penny they have scrimped and saved to leave you bug ger all?

    Cleaver is right, as far as I can see. We are hardwired to help the next generation. And they are hard wired to expect it.

    Doesn't make any of us bad people

    Crikey I don't think anyone can be defined as a bad person along these lines. I actually agree with what you said about providing a good framework for a child's development. That's more important than anything.

    In answer to your question, no I don't think my parents would be happy and that's my dilemma.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Malcolm. wrote: »
    Equity drawdown has some bad press, although not as much as sale and rent back. If you're wealthier than your parents, could you increase the mortgage on your own home to give them money in the knowledge you'll inherit their home.

    Thanks for the thought Malcolm, this is something we're looking into as an alternative. Wageslave, didn't watch the programme, so can't comment! Am having a nightmare with my keyboard tonight, so may have to go offline, sorry if I have to drop out of this its an interesting debate.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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