Free Calpol from GP?

Toothsmith

Ok - but at least that's someone with a medical qualification making a professional judgement.

Bitsy_Beans

chickywiggle wrote: »

what a silly childminder - mine is more then happy to give over counter stuff.

She isn't being a silly childminder. I am a CM and I won't administer calpol or the like. If your child is so poorly that they require pain relief then they shouldn't be in my care and should be at home.

chickywiggle

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

She isn't being a silly childminder. I am a CM and I won't administer calpol or the like. If your child is so poorly that they require pain relief then they shouldn't be in my care and should be at home.

I'm sorry............. are you therefore saying if my baby was with you and they were in pain due to teething you would leave them to scream because I don't have the teething gel and calpol signed by a GP??

You must make a fortune out of poor mothers who have to take unpaid days off work for months on end until all ther teeth have cut. But hey you wouldn't care about that either would you as you'd be getting paid regardless.

My childminder must be in the minority, but gold stars to her.

Savvy_Sue

Jewelleryfan wrote: »

Each child brings in their own bottle which we keep in their basket.

So you have multiple bottles of liquid paracetamol, not locked away? :eek:

I remember a discussion at a parents' meeting prior to a school trip: this was for young teenagers and there was a discussion about whether teachers could give paracetamol / ibuprofen if necessary. They were at first reluctant to be given packets from any child who might need them, and were suggesting that each child who might need them should bring their own supply and keep them with them. Fortunately they soon realised that that wasn't such a bright idea either.

Bitsy_Beans

chickywiggle wrote: »

I'm sorry............. are you therefore saying if my baby was with you and they were in pain due to teething you would leave them to scream because I don't have the teething gel and calpol signed by a GP??

You must make a fortune out of poor mothers who have to take unpaid days off work for months on end until all ther teeth have cut. But hey you wouldn't care about that either would you as you'd be getting paid regardless.

My childminder must be in the minority, but gold stars to her.

Believe it or not there are OTHER ways to alieviate teething pain - hard stuff to chew on, cold teething rings etc. No I wouldn't leave a baby to scream and I don't appreciate the accusation that I would - so wind your neck in.

I actually don't make a fortune out of minding - do you have to sit making observations, then sorting out planning and development all for less than minimum wage in your job? All done IN MY OWN FREE UNPAID TIME? I am happy to accept children with coughs and colds but with fever no I won't. Likewise if my own children are that poorly (as mine were before Xmas) I don't work - guess what I don't get paid. I don't have holiday pay either so don't get on your high horse suggesting I am milking poor mothers of their hard earned wages.

I take great pride and care over my mindees - they are treated like one of the family so I would respectfully ask that you find out the facts about how I work before you shoot your mouth off at me.

Jewelleryfan

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

So you have multiple bottles of liquid paracetamol, not locked away? :eek:

I remember a discussion at a parents' meeting prior to a school trip: this was for young teenagers and there was a discussion about whether teachers could give paracetamol / ibuprofen if necessary. They were at first reluctant to be given packets from any child who might need them, and were suggesting that each child who might need them should bring their own supply and keep them with them. Fortunately they soon realised that that wasn't such a bright idea either.

Yes, i work as the baby room teacher and each baby has their own basket on a shelf with their dummies and blankets etc and thats where we keep the calpol.

Obviously with the older children in other classes it is kept in the locked medicine cupboard

chickywiggle

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Believe it or not there are OTHER ways to alieviate teething pain - hard stuff to chew on, cold teething rings etc. No I wouldn't leave a baby to scream and I don't appreciate the accusation that I would - so wind your neck in.

All fab ideas I'd have never thought of those :shocked:

I actually don't make a fortune out of minding - do you have to sit making observations, then sorting out planning and development all for less than minimum wage in your job? All done IN MY OWN FREE UNPAID TIME?

Did I ever say you did??? I pay a childminder I know how much she earns. I also trained as a teacher (a job I have now given up as it took up too much of MY unpaid free time doing the above.)

I am happy to accept children with coughs and colds but with fever no I won't.

Do you not use any medicine if you have a cold???

don't have holiday pay either

I find this hard to believe - I am now on my 2nd childminder and both have it written into their contracts they are entitled to 4 weeks holiday @ full pay.

I never said you were a bad childminder - the issue is wheter medicine HAS to be prescribed by a dr - and in cases like 'calpol' I personally think it SHOULD be administered if the parents sign a medicine authorisation form to say they agree for it to be given.. I do not believe any child should be refused medicine if they need it. Yes if the child is REALLY sick then the parents shouldn't send them. but if they have just got a slight cold or may not be quite themselves they should be able to happily trust the childminder to do what they believe is correct.

I had never thought it would be a problem, but shall certainly be enquiring about any prospectvie childminders medication policies if it arises as anyone who would not put my childs happiness first would not get the job.

Bitsy_Beans

chickywiggle wrote: »

All fab ideas I'd have never thought of those :shocked: Sarcasm? Hmmmm very witty.....

Did I ever say you did??? I pay a childminder I know how much she earns. I also trained as a teacher (a job I have now given up as it took up too much of MY unpaid free time doing the above.) The tone of your post sounded as though I was taking advantage of parents and that I care little about the health children as long as I get paid.

Do you not use any medicine if you have a cold??? Not always - depends on how I am feeling. I normally try and get by with the use of Vicks rub and Olbas oil and steaming. With my own kids I don't always reach for the calpol every time they are under the weather.

I find this hard to believe - I am now on my 2nd childminder and both have it written into their contracts they are entitled to 4 weeks holiday @ full pay. Well believe it my dear - most parents I have seen baulk at the thought of paying for my time off, especially since they then have to pay for alternate means of childcare as well. I am entitled to it but I choose not to apply it as I believe it puts potential clients off.

I never said you were a bad childminder - the issue is wheter medicine HAS to be prescribed by a dr - and in cases like 'calpol' I personally think it SHOULD be administered if the parents sign a medicine authorisation form to say they agree for it to be given.. I do not believe any child should be refused medicine if they need it. Yes if the child is REALLY sick then the parents shouldn't send them. but if they have just got a slight cold or may not be quite themselves they should be able to happily trust the childminder to do what they believe is correct. I don't believe that parents should reach for drugs as their first port of call. I've had a mindee come to me being unwell (without a temp) and we managed fine during the day with no calpol. She wasn't unhappy or in distress and distraction and getting involved in playing took her mind off how she was feeling. It's what I do with my own children. I think it's all too easy to reach for the drugs these days which in reality the children don't need it. Lets face it we as babies managed without it, as did our parents so why all of a sudden is it necessary to drug your kids the moment they are a little off colour?

I had never thought it would be a problem, but shall certainly be enquiring about any prospectvie childminders medication policies if it arises as anyone who would not put my childs happiness first would not get the job.
Childrens happiness is foremost the main part of my job. Just because I chose not to give paracetamol to other peoples children does not diminish my care for their welfare.

Given the fact that I am responsible for other peoples children means I am more circumspect about certain things, the use of non prescribed drugs being one of them.
At the end of the day my mindees are happy, well cared for and don't want to leave at the end of the day- that is the most important thing.

Toothsmith

A very sensible attitude!

Whatever a parent signs to 'allow' you to administer medicines will be of no use at all when your being sued by them for not noticing that THIS time it wasn't just a minor runny nose, but the onset of runny-nose-sudden-death-syndrome. A rare condition that had you had 5 years of medical training and 10 years of specialisation, you might still have missed!

WASHER

silvercar wrote: »

Actually at my son's school the nurse will issue paracetamol tablets on a child's request. Parents were asked to sign if they wanted this facility when the children started school. It is secondary school, so the children are from age 11 up.

I work in the healthpoint centre at the local secondary school, and we aren't allowed to issue any paracetamol to any child without phoning parents, that child may have an allergy that hasn't been put on the form, or have developed an allergy since the form was filled in, and I would not take a childs word that they hadn't taken a paracetamol tablet within the last 4 hours.

It really isn't worth the risk to administer paracetamol without consent on the day the child is unwell. Prescribed medication is slightly different, I administer that, but always put a note in the childs planner to state time of administration.