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Judge's Possible Questions -redetermination hearing

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  • thewad
    thewad Posts: 348 Forumite
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    Cheers for that LTBDF

    Still can't figure out how they can charge unsecured interest rates and yet get security on it, surely they should have to do an adjustment on your account and pay back the interest difference.
    Talk about having your cake and eating it.

    John
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat. :beer::beer:
  • dancingfairy
    dancingfairy Posts: 9,069 Forumite
    Hi. I'm sorry to hear what a horrid time you're having. I don't know if you can appeal the judgement given that your creditors didn't turn up? Just wondering if the judge was trying to give you any hints on this?
    Have you had a read of the factsheet on National Debtline on Charing Orders? - this might put your mind at rest a bit and prepare you for what's ahead.
    Hopefully 10past6 can help you.
    df
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  • thewad wrote: »
    Cheers for that LTBDF

    Still can't figure out how they can charge unsecured interest rates and yet get security on it, surely they should have to do an adjustment on your account and pay back the interest difference.
    Talk about having your cake and eating it.

    John

    Egg put a charge on our house several years ago and of course didn't reduce the interest rates. The judge allowed it because we couldn't pay back the debt within (I think) a couple of years. Their solicitor said afterwards that they very rarely pushed for an enforced sale. They've since had their money thank God.

    There's an article in the latest MSE news where the Government are looking to stop creditors forcing a sale.

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/loans/2010/02/repossession-protection-plan-announced-by-government?utm_source=forum&utm_medium=sidebar&utm_campaign=box
  • Thanks dancingfairy and fedupwiththeworry, I keep playing the hearing over and over in my mind, the Judge kept saying sorry, I have to do this but please seek legal advice, he must have said it 4 times in the 15 minutes we were with him. But then I think, he still didnt need to rule for forthwith judgement so goodness knows!

    We def are appealing the forthwith ruling, just waiting on the letter from the court so we know how to go about that.
    10past6 is helping too so with everyone here I know we are in great hands.
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  • 10past6
    10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
    thewad wrote: »
    Still can't figure out how they can charge unsecured interest rates and yet get security on it
    They claim the agreement / contract has been breached by the customer due to the agreed monthly amounts not being paid.
    Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.

    All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional
  • 10past6
    10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
    10past6 is helping too so with everyone here I know we are in great hands.
    Check your PM box ;)
    Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.

    All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional
  • MBNA's solicitors left a message on our home answer phone today, asking to phone because they wanted to give some information about the letter we had sent them 2 days ago (we sent a copy of the SAR letter which we sent to MBNA plus a letter asking them for confirmation that they informed our creditors that they were taking legal action against us)

    Is that normal practice to phone.....what could they possibly want to tell us that they cant put in writing? Any other motive maybe?
    Should my husband not be talking to them at all and just ask them to put it in writing? We are curious as to what they want mind you!
    Total Debt : £61,302.84 :eek:
    DMP with CCCS started 1.01.2010
    Debt Free in 13 Years 1 month, hopefully sooner as things improve and they stop interest/charges!!
    Long Hauler #188 DMP Member 353
    Thank you so much to all posters :beer:
  • Personally I prefer all correspondance in writing so I've got proof of what was said and when. There's nothing to stop them ringing of course, just that you "have to be there" to answer of course.
  • Verbatim
    Verbatim Posts: 4,831 Forumite
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    Charging Order? The myth - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums

    I don't know how accurate the info in this thread is but might well be worth considering/checking out.

    Good Lucl
    V
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  • Dear All,

    I would like any advice you may have regarding an unsecured debt. I am due for a 10 minute hearing over a debt from 2008 of just over £2000 next week (I have also got two year old CCJs paying £1 per month on debts totalling about £16K) and about £25K unsecured debt in total. I have a mortgage but I am single and the mortgage is in my name. I was not asked to attend a hearing for the other two larger debts, but I am now very concerned about this having read in this thread that courts are currently being unsympathetic to debtors. The 'claimant' is a debt predator that bought the debt from a credit card company.

    I am currently unemployed and have offered £1 a month token offer which they have not accepted.

    I am also unhappy about whether this 'sale' represents a breach of the Data Protection Act (Why is no-one arguing this?) My mortgage lender (also my bank) won't even talk to the DWP about my account without my express permission, yet the original creditor in this case thinks it's okay to 'sell' my account without giving me any prior notice let alone obtaining my permission! The status of my account surely has no bearing on Data Protection rules?
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