Teaching maths - what is salary likely to be?!

thenap80

I am considering a career teaching maths in the UK. I understand that state schools would pay about 20K to start (plus any bursary), but my question, what is the scope for earning alot more, say in private schools. Would it be easy to get into a better paid position.

I only ask as moving into teaching would, at only 20k, be a severe pay cut for me. Earning more to the 50K mark would suit me better.

hieveryone

I doubt you will earn 50k anytime soon teaching maths. Sorry.

iamana1ias

thenap80 wrote: »

I am considering a career teaching maths in the UK. I understand that state schools would pay about 20K to start (plus any bursary), but my question, what is the scope for earning alot more, say in private schools. Would it be easy to get into a better paid position.

I only ask as moving into teaching would, at only 20k, be a severe pay cut for me. Earning more to the 50K mark would suit me better.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I'm sure most people could say that!

You won't get anywhere near £50k working as a maths teacher in any school. i doubt you'd get more than £40k being head of department.

wontfallforit

thenap80 wrote: »

I am considering a career teaching maths in the UK. I understand that state schools would pay about 20K to start (plus any bursary), but my question, what is the scope for earning alot more, say in private schools. Would it be easy to get into a better paid position.

I only ask as moving into teaching would, at only 20k, be a severe pay cut for me. Earning more to the 50K mark would suit me better.

A friend of mine teaches in a private school...her pay is very similar, but the benefits to her are that classes are smaller (effectively resulting in a payrise, I expect, as there's less work to mark out-of-hours, etc.), the working environment is supposedly better (though not necessarily true of all private schools), and the scenery on the school grounds is lovely

Earning 50k as a teacher is wildly unrealistic - within or outside the private schooling sector. You'd have to be looking at becoming a faculty head at the very least - though probably more like overall school deputy head, or even headteacher.

Oldernotwiser

You would have to be successful teacher working a number of years to earn 50,000, particularly outside London. As has been said, salaries in private schools aren't necessarily higher, although teaching conditions may well be better.

This should give you a better idea of salary ranges;

http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/lifeasateacher/payandbenefits/salaryscales.aspx

alunharford

Yes... I've noticed this.

The government wonders why there is a shortage of qualified maths teachers but anybody suitably qualified with a 'proper job' would need to take at least a 50% pay cut to do it.

You'd have to be mad AND not have a mortgage.

Oldernotwiser

alunharford wrote: »

Yes... I've noticed this.

The government wonders why there is a shortage of qualified maths teachers but anybody suitably qualified with a 'proper job' would need to take at least a 50% pay cut to do it.

You'd have to be mad AND not have a mortgage.

There are plenty of qualified people in "proper jobs" (whatever that means!) who earn a hell of a lot less than 44,000!

fattyrae1

Teaching is a vocation and if you are only going to consider being a maths teacher if you earn that much, then i don't think teaching is for you.

alunharford

There are plenty of qualified people in "proper jobs" (whatever that means!) who earn a hell of a lot less than 44,000!

Sorry if I wasn't clear: "proper" job is an attempt to exclude PhD students etc. who are technically employed but will earn far less than 44k.

I don't know anybody who has:

a) Graduated in Mathematics with a 1st or 2:1 from Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, Warwick, LSE, UCL, Bristol, Bath etc., and
b) The necessary interpersonal skills to teach

who earns less than that figure.

I'm sorry if requirement (a) sounds overly elitist, but mathematics is inherently a meritocracy. (I don't qualify, in case you're wondering)

The idea that in a post-Gödel world we have an education system full of teachers building up to e^(pi*i)=-1 with no knowledge of the implications is abhorrent. In a few hundred years we'll look back on it as child abuse.

Anihilator

alunharford wrote: »

Sorry if I wasn't clear: "proper" job is an attempt to exclude PhD students etc. who are technically employed but will earn far less than 44k.

I don't know anybody who has:

a) Graduated in Mathematics with a 1st or 2:1 from Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, Warwick, LSE, UCL, Bristol, Bath etc., and
b) The necessary interpersonal skills to teach

who earns less than that figure.

I'm sorry if requirement (a) sounds overly elitist, but mathematics is inherently a meritocracy. (I don't qualify, in case you're wondering)

The idea that in a post-Gödel we have an education system full of teachers building up to e^(pi*i)=-1 with no knowledge of the implications is abhorrent. In a few hundred years we'll look back on it as child abuse.

Yes it is ridicolously elitist

There will be plenty of maths graduates who dont earn anywhere near 44k.

Oldernotwiser

alunharford wrote: »

I don't know anybody who has:

a) Graduated in Mathematics with a 1st or 2:1 from Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, Warwick, LSE, UCL, Bristol, Bath etc., and
b) The necessary interpersonal skills to teach

who earns less than that figure.

I'm sorry if requirement (a) sounds overly elitist, but mathematics is inherently a meritocracy. (I don't qualify, in case you're wondering)

Excellent universities as they are, I hardly think that a degree from Oxbridge or similar is a necessary requirement to teach 3C basic algebra!