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  • regularsaver1
    regularsaver1 Posts: 4,930 Forumite
    if you go back to halifax(or new lender later) (consolidate into one mortgage - which you said they cant do - everything will be one charge

    the other option (which can't be offered over the phone) is a homeowner loan (different lending criteria, separate loan to mgt but still secured and still with same lender)- so could possibly repay the 2nd charge and gain the extra - but it may be worth waiting at the moment

    i wouldn't go for a 3rd charge, and the 3rd company would have to get permission of the 1st and the 2nd charge. - it is complicated
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    It depends on the T&C with Halifax and Black Horse.

    Borrowing to repay borrowing is never a good idea unless there is true cost benefit, not just in a reduction of monthly cost in the short term but also cheaper in the long run.

    A second or 3rd charge will 'generally' be more expensive than a first charge. Also with a second charge there may be additional redemption penalties and set up fees in addition to those on the 1st charge.

    Having access to many lenders I would say that, obviously depending on the full picture of what is to be consolidated and the costs monthly, putting it all into a single 1st charge would most likely be the most cost effective way of reducing the outgoings on a monthly basis.

    It will also depend on the tie in's you have with the Halifax.

    Andy
  • regularsaver1
    regularsaver1 Posts: 4,930 Forumite
    you state that halifax said you can only borrow £77k before - but that would have been based on your original term - as they use an affordability model - you could borrow more now with a larger term - still might not help, but worth a query - would be one charge if you could
  • Frugal_Fox
    Frugal_Fox Posts: 1,002 Forumite
    Hi - I think I've managed to confuse you both!!

    I currently have a mortgage, unsecured debts and a second charge on the property from Black Horse.

    I have re-negotiated the mortgage.

    In time ( I appreciate I may have to wait a while for this!) I would like to consolidate the debt to one payment. Currently pay 9.9% apr on Black Horse, 18.9% (M & S - pre MSE in my defence!) and 13.9% Halifax credit card. I would like to consolidate these into one - lower APR - payment. Which I intend to overpay, but would like to take advantage of the lower interest rates.

    Can I just consolidate these debts into a loan? Even though one currently is a charge on the property. Have no preference over secured or un-secured loans. I definately do NOT want a third charge - just wasn't sure how I go about getting this sorted !

    Can you help?

    FF
    "A simple life freely chosen is a source of strength. Do not be pursuaded into buying what you do not need or cannot afford." Quaker Faith & Practice 1.02.41
  • regularsaver1
    regularsaver1 Posts: 4,930 Forumite
    if yopu want a term usually less that 7 years an unsecured loan can do this

    if you want a longer term then usually would have to be secured
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