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Employment application form - are these questions legal?
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Which allowances are these of which you speak?
Exactley, your allowances are nothing to do with your employers - they are set by your tax code and will vary from person to person, even with apparently identical circumstances.Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.0 -
I'm a bit concerned about these sorts of issues as I start looking at new jobs (redundancy looming). I'm in my mid twenties, female and living with a partner. I can definitely see an employer deciding I'm a maternity leave risk and going with a man instead. I have no plans to have children but there's no space to put that on the forms! I wouldn't even want to actually because making new people is, you know, necessary and legal! Women are already discrimnated against by nature because they have to do all the pregnancy/breast-feeding duties if we do have children, its really unfair we get extra discrimination on top of that!0
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Person_one wrote: »Women are already discrimnated against by nature because they have to do all the pregnancy/breast-feeding duties if we do have children, its really unfair we get extra discrimination on top of that!
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Bit of a sweeping statement.
Nature "discriminates against women" because they have to breast feed and go through pregnancy?!
Some would say it's a blessing, not a curse.
Hardly discrimination."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
There are all sorts of reasons why this is important information for an employer and it is NOT illegal.
For example, your marital status and children will affect the taxes that your employer deduct - your allowances are affected by these.
If they provide a pension (as all employers will be obliged to do soon), then your age is relevant. If they provide health insurance, then your smoking status is important.
Dont sweat the small stuff - it's not a huge conspiracy to get at you.
But surely they can ask these questions AFTER offering a job. My worry is by asking these sorts of questions before selecting for interview and by not asking about qualifications and experience on the form which I find quite bizarre, it is being used for possibly the wrong reasons..0 -
I have just had to end someone employment at the end of their probation period . Had to run it through HR , they asked me his age , nationality , whether he was disabled , and if he was homosexual ! ...........this is to avoid claims of unfair dismissal , .the ability to do the job seems to be irrelevent ( insert roll eyes smiley ) !
I wonder what they'd say if the answers were "I dunno, 30s?", "I dunno", "If he is he hasn't told me", "I dunno, say why are you asking all these questions that aren't connected to their poor job performance, anyway?"
I never understood how concentrating more and more on the differences between people improves equality compared to telling everyone (and meaning it of course) "all I care about is your ability to do the job".If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything0 -
intresting to know that a lot of employers will target thier advertising of a job at ethnic minorties if they feel they havnt enough ethnic variety in the work place and it is legal however if they targeted thier advertising at british people in a british workplace this is illegal. i know of people in ethnic minoroties that will send 2 applications for a job 1 from themselves and 1 identicle application but from an ethnic minority and if they get a reply from the british 1 but not the ethnic minority then they sue the company and people make a living doing this.
These are myths spread by ignorant people who can barely write a proper sentence...
It is illegal to advertise for a specific ethnicity/gender etc with very few exceptions (e.g. people working in domestic violence refuges for women, or care workers in homes for older people from specific backgrounds).
Employers can only encourage people from certain backgrounds to apply, but then can't discriminate against the other applicants.
In my experience I've seen many more cases of BME people being discriminated against than white British people.
As I said in a previous post somewhere else:Similar to the myth that all social housing goes to asylum seekers.
It makes disadvantaged people look like they have an advantage, and the poor 'white/male/middle class/straight/able/british etc etc' person is being discriminated against.0 -
terra_ferma wrote: »Similar to the myth that all social housing goes to asylum seekers.
It makes disadvantaged people look like they have an advantage, and the poor 'white/male/middle class/straight/able/british etc etc' person is being discriminated against.
This is the insidious nature of the fashion for "political correctness at all costs" these days. It doesn't address real issues and provides cannon fodder for nutters like the BNP.If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything0
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