Climate Change Honesty required!

cepheus

Ben84

Thank you for an eloquent and well thought out answer. It explains how fundamentally flawed our economic system is and why right wing groups (which includes all the mainstream parties) are terrified of this concept, since everything they ideologically believe in requires everyone to engage in this irrational behaviour. It requires them to admit they have been taught a lie, so they fudge it using the oxymoron concept of sustainable growth.

Using our present system anyone who makes a unbreakable cup or shoelace, or even focuses on replacing key components which wear rather than the whole unit is doomed to bankruptcy since their market will become quickly saturated.

Underlying this madness is a media frenzy encouraging us that what we have is inadequate and we have to keep up with the latest fashion. (See my thread on widescreen TV) This may be OK with a limited population but you can't have 6-9 billion people doing this, it is a ecological nightmare!

exprog

What fun. Now that the lying climate conspirators have had to admit it's all rubbish everyone can now see it's a loony left wheeze to destroy the economy. :rotfl:

Of course, anyone not likeing to live in prosperity could always consider going off to a cave to die.

Moggles_2

exprog wrote: »

What fun. Now that the lying climate conspirators have had to admit it's all rubbish ...

Nobody has said "it's all rubbish" (as you would know if you had bothered to follow the links provided)

None of this is an excuse for inaction. Anyone, with a couple of brain cells that occasionally collide, must realise the problem we need to address (whether or not we accept humanity's contribution to climate change), is the profligate use of finite resources. Fossil fuels will not materialise in ever greater quantities just because we want more of them.

Development and investment in clean renewables would not only improve air quality, it makes sound economic sense. IMO, this country would be safer too, if we reduced our dependence on imported oil, coal and gas.

exprog

Moggles wrote: »

Nobody has said "it's all rubbish"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Apart from all the people who do truth rather than loony left propaganda. Still, as a fully paid-up loon don't let reality get in the way of repeating twaddle. Obviously must be some sort of therapy.

Moggles_2

exprog wrote: »

Apart from all the people who do truth rather than loony left propaganda. Still, as a fully paid-up loon don't let reality get in the way of repeating twaddle ...

Dear me, you're the one doing that (as you would realise if you had followed the links the OP provided and read what it actually says).

Mankysteve

cliffski wrote: »

I dont think you understand basic economics. Nor this issue.
Your eally think that the lobby from companies selling green technology is more powerful than the lobby from the largest companies on earth that sell and drill for oil, gas and coal?
Get real.
You have made the mistake of reading the !!!!!!!! jeremy clarkson writes methinks. He should stick to reviewing cars, he is hardly a climate expert.

Look at shell in Nigeria and you can see how much power and control oil industries have they pretty much run the country, arrange for the murder of anyone who gets in their way and prevent indigenous people from living off the land.

Lets forget about climate change is this type of people you want to be buying stuff off.