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Computer blunders cost 26 BILLION pounds
donaldtramp
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http://http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labours-computer-blunders-cost-16326bn-1871967.html
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A series of botched IT projects has left taxpayers with a bill of more than £26bn for computer systems that have suffered severe delays, run millions of pounds over budget or have been cancelled altogether.
An investigation by The Independent has found that the total cost of Labour's 10 most notorious IT failures is equivalent to more than half of the budget for Britain's schools last year. Parliament's spending watchdog has described the projects as "fundamentally flawed" and blamed ministers for "stupendous incompetence" in managing them.
Further evidence has emerged over the failings of Labour's most costly programme, the mammoth £12.7bn IT scheme to revolutionise the NHS. The Independent has learnt that just 160 health organisations out of about 9,000 are using electronic patient records delivered under the scheme. The vast majority of those were GP practices. New figures have also revealed that millions of pounds have been paid out in legal fees. The taxpayer has footed a £39.2m bill for "legal and commercial support" for the National Programme for IT (NPfIT).
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What does? donaldtramps personal vendetta?It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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If it's a vendetta against wasting money on stupidity I think you'll find there are millions like me.....lemonjelly wrote: »What does? donaldtramps personal vendetta?0 -
And I thought that outsourcing to the private sector would lead to higher efficiency?"The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
Albert Einstein0 -
After working with two of the vendors from a third party perspective, who took on and subsequently dropped the project, I'm hardly suprised.
There are more than sufficient skills in the UK for this kind of project, and it should of been done in house.
Outsourcing, rarely works.0 -
the nhs IT project was called 'connecting for health' and has been reported to death in Private Eye.donaldtramp wrote: »
don't remember the full details but I can recall reading that 2 directors of a firm contracted to provide a support service walked away millionaires for producing.....absolutely nothing.
without a doubt lab's biggest disaster (after PFI ) but I don't recall any of the opposition parties kicking up a stink when the project was announced.0 -
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So what's new? This is old news. The NHS programme has been a total !!!!-up since it first started, but you can't use this to bash the public sector. The problem is due to outsourcing and the decisions made by the relevant government ministers. Outsourcing in the public sector is widespread and it simply does not work well - if it was up to me I would get rid of it and bring all development in-house. The problem is that the government dislikes the idea of having thousands of IT staff employed in the public sector, hence the outsourcing bonanza. It's ironic, as it would be far cheaper for the taxpayer to have everything done in-house, but logic is never uppermost in the mind of our ministers, is it?0 -
Absolutely. The unspoken truth (hate the phrase 'the elephant in the room', but it is the right one here) is that the real waste in the public sector isn't the public servants - it's the millions wasted on consultants drafted in at enormous expense and private contractors paid far more (got to make profits for the directors/shareholders, after all!) to do a worse job than a public sector worker would have done. And with v little accountability when it all goes pear-shaped, as it usually does.0
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an colleague of mine worked on one of these projects - his daily rate was £650 and was there for 18 months, it's an average rate for the job in the private sector.
i know and he knows that they couldn't have found someone in the pubic sector to do the same role at short notice and be able to hit the ground running. it would have needed training and a lot of investment to give it to someone from within the public sector. with a contractor you just release him and don't have to worry about keeping him on and paying his pension/benefits etc... which would have been additional costs to the public sector.0 -
How is pension and benefit 'additional costs' to the public sector if someone works there and is getting them anyway? Do you imagine there are no people in the public sector who work in IT? Or that none of them would be able to 'hit the ground running'? (Or indeed, would need to hit the ground running - if they worked in that area permanently, they wouldn't need to waste time - or my money - by getting up to speed on the area.
£650 a DAY? What an utter waste of taxpayer's money.
Bloody private sector parasites.
That's why public sector finances are like they are.
How many civil servants earn £650/day, even including pensions/benfits.
Most would be very glad to get that amount per week.0 -
go and find out how much it costs to employ an IT professional on the job market.How is pension and benefit 'additional costs' to the public sector if someone works there and is getting them anyway? Do you imagine there are no people in the public sector who work in IT? Or that none of them would be able to 'hit the ground running'? (Or indeed, would need to hit the ground running - if they worked in that area permanently, they wouldn't need to waste time - or my money - by getting up to speed on the area.
£650 a DAY? What an utter waste of taxpayer's money.
Bloody private sector parasites.
That's why public sector finances are like they are.
How many civil servants earn £650/day, even including pensions/benfits.
Most would be very glad to get that amount per week.
either the public sector pays the market rate or the public sector gets sub-standard employees.
yes it's a lot of money but before you went off on your rant - do you even know what the IT role was, software or hardware?
did you stop to think if it was network related or was it a software engineering job?
you don't really know what you're talking about do you?
but you've just seen £650 per day and got all giddy and excited. :eek:0
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