Reasons for resignation,

jdturk

ariarnia wrote: »

But to an extent it is.

The doctor won't give this recommendation unless the OP feels it's needed as if the op doesn't think it's needed then they won't go in to see the dr anyway.

Saying the op isn't sick if he's not been diagnosed is unhelpful, as unless he feels sick he won't be diagnosed. The op is the only one who can assess and communicate his mental state when it comes to diagnosing his mental health. The amount he talks it up to his GP + his history + his gp's opinion are all combined to make GP's diagnosis.

I agee with you but what I am basically saying is that if it is a mental illness then IMO (whether rightly or wrongly) the OP or any other person on this matter should go to a dr straightaway because it would be to easy to screw a company over on something like this as there are really no physical effects.

Also what constitutes stess, a broken leg is a broken leg whereas stress comes in many differant levels and as said before its to easy for people to use this as an excuse (I'm not saying the OP is)

ariarnia

I see no reason why the op shouldn't use it as an excuse as long as they don't abuse it.

If the op's manager can't be reasonable then the op can use mental health as a way of making them tone it down.

The company will only go so far to accommodate a mental health condition, and the gp will only go so far in supporting the op out of work.

"Also what constitutes stess, a broken leg is a broken leg whereas stress comes in many differant levels"

A broken leg isn't just a broken leg. many factors affect speed of healing and even pain felt - age, physical condition, type of break, bone density, position of break - even mental health.

Stress as you pointed out isn't just stress. No one but the OP can evaluate the affliction directly and only the op can communicate the affliction to be diagnosed. Even then, there are many factors to consider in the impact a short time off or that reduced work can have on the condition.

We're saying stress. Is that the correct work as the OP didn't feel the work was too much, but that the managers behaviour was too much.

Is it stress when it's emotional bullying? Or is it rather anxiety, depression, disaffection from work, apathy, resentment, over sensitivity, or even simple sadness.

Only the OP can know.

Yes that means it's open to abuse, but to treat it with suspicion will simply result in the attitude that anyone with stress is taking the mick, the same as anyone with a bad back is a dole scrounger - if you know what I mean.

I think it's very important to seek help if you're not feeling happy. Be it going to the doctor, looking at reworking your life, changing jobs, talking about your managers attitude, getting a pet even.

To an extent I think that mental health is more important that physical health for the very fact that you can't see it.

Fire_Fox

jdturk wrote: »

I agee with you but what I am basically saying is that if it is a mental illness then IMO (whether rightly or wrongly) the OP or any other person on this matter should go to a dr straightaway because it would be to easy to screw a company over on something like this as there are really no physical effects.

Also what constitutes stess, a broken leg is a broken leg whereas stress comes in many differant levels and as said before its to easy for people to use this as an excuse (I'm not saying the OP is)

There are physical effects of many disorders of mental health actually. Physical symptoms of stress can include raised pulse and heart rate, tremor, nausea and vomiting, insomnia, depressed immune function, diarrhoea, excessive sweating ...

Different people cope with different levels of stress, people suggesting it's all in your mind or that you might be faking show their ignorance. Doctors are highly intelligent and have undertaken six years of intensive study, it's insulting for a layman to suggest that it would be easy to persuade them to make the wrong diagnosis.

jdturk

Fire_Fox wrote: »

There are physical effects of many disorders of mental health actually. Physical symptoms of stress can include raised pulse and heart rate, tremor, nausea and vomiting, insomnia, depressed immune function, diarrhoea, excessive sweating ...

Different people cope with different levels of stress, people suggesting it's all in your mind or that you might be faking show their ignorance. Doctors are highly intelligent and have undertaken six years of intensive study, it's insulting for a layman to suggest that it would be easy to persuade them to make the wrong diagnosis.

Again valid points, however I would never suggest someone was faking stress and would never suggest a DR is but you cannot tell me that some Dr's have signed people off work knowing full well they aren't stressed. Dr's are not perfect and some are even falliable (sp)

ariarnia

jdturk wrote: »

Again valid points, however I would never suggest someone was faking stress and would never suggest a DR is but you cannot tell me that some Dr's have signed people off work knowing full well they aren't stressed. Dr's are not perfect and some are even falliable (sp)

See, now that's a hard one.

Doesn't everyone benefit from a holiday?

There is no set definition of stress and so no set level at which a break from that which is causing stress can be of benefit.

In fact some people, my self included, find it beneficial to be in work the vast majority of the time. I enjoy it, enjoy the satisfaction of completing a task, enjoy interacting with others.

Even when I was in FTE I used to get bored stiff and wish we didn't have such long summer holidays.

That is not to say that I didn't have some carpy days at work, some general bad hair days or duvet days, but all in all not being in work at the moment is worse for me and the only way I'm coping is by volunteering at the local shelter almost full time.

Thats me.

Given I can only accept myself as a normal base level of individual (given I can't empirically experience anyone else) in my experience being in work is better than not being in work, but I accept that people are different.

I liked my job and my previous jobs, I liked my co-workers and my bosses, and generally the impression I got was that they liked me to.

It's nice to be liked. Not like the OP's current situation.