old and new scheme

strobe1

I find it disgusting that old scheme members(haha what a great name for us) cannot be transferred to new scheme if there is a change to circumstance. I heard a long time back that this would be possible if for instance the NRP say came out of work and there was a break of 6 months I think it was. (No guessing what Id be doing if that happens) and before anyone jumps on that point I have not missed ONE payment for 15 Years.
Why is this the case. I am in a position now whereby my child has left college and wants to find work but MAY return next year (sept) so initially I will inform CSA, but if she returns to college then I will be still classed as an old scheme member by what I have been reading on the .gov site.
I just dont understand this, any comments please

kelloggs36

You heard wrong - this has never been the case, but if the circumstances regarding children changed then the case could be transferred eg if you had a child with another PWC or the PWC had a child with another NRP or if the case was completely closed for over 13 weeks. Other than that, all cases stay on whatever system they are on. This was due to change and get all cases onto the new one, but the system was not set up properly and it failed so the whole plan was scrapped - hence CS3!!!

shell_542

If your child leaves education, then your child maintenance would stop. If the case is closed, ie. No arrears ... and the child goes back to education after at least 13 weeks, the PWC would have to ask for a new case to be opened wouldn't she? And the new case WOULD be on the new scheme, CSA2.

So if your daughter is leaving full time education for the mean time, it might be in your interests to chase up the closure of the case. You could still pay your daughter or ex directly if you so wished while the CSA case wasn't open. (Make sure you get confirmation in writing from the CSA that the case is closed though, so you don't get chased for arrears and made to pay twice)

Although, CSA2 doesn't automatically = lower child maintenance amounts and a better situation.

strobe1

kelloggs36 wrote: »

You heard wrong - this has never been the case, but if the circumstances regarding children changed then the case could be transferred eg if you had a child with another PWC or the PWC had a child with another NRP or if the case was completely closed for over 13 weeks. Other than that, all cases stay on whatever system they are on. This was due to change and get all cases onto the new one, but the system was not set up properly and it failed so the whole plan was scrapped - hence CS3!!!

Firstly thanks for your comments as with shell542


the PWC could still claim CB for 20 weeks I read, that would mean CM was still payable, and on that if she went back to college then the 13 week period would be in my favour so to speak. Also the PWC has been re married and has 2x children with him, when my maintanence was assessed they actually stated that because she has children with her new partner that I am actually contributing to that scenario (absolutely dumstruck and aghast at how this craaaazy system works) I pay through the agency but set up my own direct debit due to all problems with works originally not paying it on time etc. It seems to be a case of screw the NRP and when they are down tightn that screw a bit more, its no wonder it has driven many a good parent to end their lives as i have been there as many on here have and it wasnt a nice experience so has made me wary bout actualoly contacting them, all in all i know i should do but is it worth it when I am more than likely gona have to go thru all that again later in year

kelloggs36

How it worked is that your ex may have had a job and been working and therefore making a contribution and reducing your liability. but if she had another child, she would get half the child allowance for them (because she has a working partner who would be deemed to be contributing towards their own child) and this would be added to her exempt income. If she had stopped working, it means you pay the full rate, and if her exempt income is now higher than her net income you end up paying the full rate. If she is working, you could put in a departure on the grounds that her partner can contribute towards her housing costs - but she can do the same to you, so be careful on this one.