Advice Needed - New starter salary considerably more than other staff

ohreally

FATBALLZ wrote: »

Job offers can easily be revoked. Please don't post unless you know what you're talking about.

Not necessarily. If the job offer was uncontitional then subsequently withdrawn, a breach of contract has taken place and one may claim damages.

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FATBALLZ

ohreally wrote: »

Not necessarily. If the job offer was uncontitional then subsequently withdrawn, a breach of contract has taken place and one may claim damages.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=12866945&postcount=6

If an unconditional offer was made, you just sack the employee shortly after they start before they have any employment rights. How you do it is a technicality.

brians_daughter

Not read all the posts so this may have already been said..but

Many companies will negotiate, just depends how much they want the candidate and how well they have negotiated.

I am not saying you are not ambitious etc but if you have been doing the role for a number of years and haven't pushed/been eyed up for promotion this can come accross as you are 'happy with you lot' so to speak so they wont push you to take on extra responsibilities and in turn additional salary. Maybe the new person has expressed other skills and intention of moving up the ladder so they saw that she was worth the additional money

In my last job I negotiated £4,000 extra on the advertised salary. The employ agreed as I had other skills not directy relating to the role I was being employed for but the employer knew I would be able to assist in other things should the need arise.

Maybe you should see this is your ideal time to go and negotiate additional pay?

Sazzyukrafc

Perhaps the new starter has better qualifications and skills more suited to the job that the people already working there, your employer will therefore be more willing to pay them more in order to secure these. The new starter may have also wanted more money and negotiated this successfully.

DKLS

I recruiting 4 staff for the exact same role a couple of years back, I advertised the salary at 18-26K.
3 of the staff started at 18k the other I started at 24k, mainly as he negotiated the higher salary and justified it.

Sazzyukrafc

DKLS - excellent example of what I tried to explain, many roles are advertised between two figures, depending on your experience.

gazebo

so let me see here - someone found a fax from a letting agency requesting confirmation of employment and asking for confirmation of salary of a newly employed person.

The salary stated is significantly higher than exisiting people in the role are currently in receipt of.

Is it possible that the new start has inflated their salary to try and obtain a better place to stay perhaps?

I wouldn't be in the huff completely because having previously processed similar requests from agencies - it's quite often the case that people do not always tell the truth on these matters.

It's also worth pointing out that people do inflate salaries when trying to obtain mortgages.....

personally I'd move along and think nothing of it.

bap98189

DKLS wrote: »

I recruiting 4 staff for the exact same role a couple of years back, I advertised the salary at 18-26K. 3 of the staff started at 18k the other I started at 24k, mainly as he negotiated the higher salary and justified it.

I think if anything, this demonstrates the differences between the private and public sector.Most public sector organisations have very rigidly defined salary scales. Everyone doing X job must be paid the same. Sure there are incriments for experiance, qualifications, age etc. but your salary is not negotiable when you join simply because the pay structure is so rigid.

The private sector works very differently. Negotiating your salary is a big part of the job application process and it is the norm for different people doing the same job to be earning different amounts of money.

pinkshoes

bap98189 wrote: »

The private sector works very differently. Negotiating your salary is a big part of the job application process and it is the norm for different people doing the same job to be earning different amounts of money.

bap is spot on! Most public sector jobs don't seem to have salary bands, so you negotiate whatever you can.

A while ago I discovered a colleague doing the same job, who is the same age with the same qualifications, is paid over £10k more than me, so I'm currently looking for another job to use it as ammunition to barter a pay rise. Or I might take another job if I prefer it...

okay79

Do you know how much each of the others who saw the fax earn, and can you confirm their salaries for yourself?

Making an issue of a new arrival on a higher salary could also be a way for one of the group to draw attention away from themselves, valuable if they are earning more than you - perhaps you are not all earning as little as you think.