Unpaid daily work-related meetings

-BA-

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

£5.80 strikes me as quite a lot less than £9.50 ph, but there you go ...

Conceivably a worker on £5.80 per hour may well be eligible for substantial working tax credits and when you take the full tax the OP will be taking the gap could be considerably less. However based on a 37 hour week it is in excess of £18k, clearly not NMW

wontfallforit

dori2o wrote: »

I'd have no problem comming in for the meeting, but I would leave 10 mins early every day.

This is sometimes the case, I must admit they do allow you to leave 10 mins early some of the time. Literally, maybe once a week. But, actually getting away is really difficult, as it's a customer-facing role. No matter how efficiently you manage your time, you may well be stuck with a particularly talkative client who has quite complex needs. That's not the fault of the company, but leaving work at 5.20 is commonplace.

Despite being paid by the hour, we're not paid overtime, not even at basic rate. TOIL is always promised, but it never materialises on our holiday allowances.

Start times, breaks and lunches are strictly timed, to the exact minute (and quite rightly so), so when colleagues take even one or two minutes of 'liberties', they must pay the time back by shortening their next break, and this rule is always enforced. Management's clock seems to go into suspension at around 4.30pm, though :rotfl:

wontfallforit

-BA- wrote: »

Conceivably a worker on £5.80 per hour may well be eligible for substantial working tax credits and when you take the full tax the OP will be taking the gap could be considerably less. However based on a 37 hour week it is in excess of £18k, clearly not NMW

It's quite beside the point, but yes, I'm of course not eligible for any kind of income top-up :-/

Travel costs, tax, NI, etc., eat into my pay substantially (that's life!), but all in all, I'm happy with my pay. I have worked for less, and would do so again. So long as I'm being paid the correct amount for the hours I put in

I made an error in my calculation - my pre-tax hourly rate is £9.35, based on my 37 hour week. Though it's more of a 40 hour week, unofficially, making it £8.65. I don't mean to quibble over a few pence, but it all adds up.

Savvy_Sue

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

£5.80 strikes me as quite a lot less than £9.50 ph, but there you go ...

-BA- wrote: »

Conceivably a worker on £5.80 per hour may well be eligible for substantial working tax credits and when you take the full tax the OP will be taking the gap could be considerably less. However based on a 37 hour week it is in excess of £18k, clearly not NMW

Your reasoning is impeccable, it is possible for people on very different initial incomes to be more or less affluent than each other after benefits are applied, but given the raw data it didn't seem like 'just a little more!' As I think the OP now acknowledges.

ceridwen

wontfallforit wrote: »

This is sometimes the case, I must admit they do allow you to leave 10 mins early some of the time. Literally, maybe once a week. But, actually getting away is really difficult, as it's a customer-facing role. No matter how efficiently you manage your time, you may well be stuck with a particularly talkative client who has quite complex needs. That's not the fault of the company, but leaving work at 5.20 is commonplace.

Despite being paid by the hour, we're not paid overtime, not even at basic rate. TOIL is always promised, but it never materialises on our holiday allowances.

Start times, breaks and lunches are strictly timed, to the exact minute (and quite rightly so), so when colleagues take even one or two minutes of 'liberties', they must pay the time back by shortening their next break, and this rule is always enforced. Management's clock seems to go into suspension at around 4.30pm, though :rotfl:

Well - they cant have it both ways. If they are strictly timing you - then you strictly time them right back.

I was thinking "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" before you said this post........and wondering what little thing they will come up with next if they get away with this one.

Never mind YOU being petty - I think they are being extremely petty. There seems to be one rule in life for many employers and the Government - they take a tiny bit, then a tiny bit more, then a tiny bit more again...and a couple of years down the line you add up all the "tiny bits" and they've taken a heck of a lot. Thats the way they operate - they decide on a HUGE cutback - and then bring it in smidgen by smidgen by smidgen...

I have this nasty feeling....