Why Britain joined EU?

Thrugelmir

leveller2911 wrote: »

So where does "Harmony" end and Communism begin?.

If you take that arguement to a conclusion ALL states will be equel ,standard of living equel,currencies etc etc etc.Now as far as I'm aware (only had a basic education so im happy to be "educated") NEVER in the history of the world has that been a success.Its human nature to want more and when member states see/think other states are getting a better deal theres gonna be trouble.......That is exactly what ended the "Communism" experiement, all equel but some more equel than others.

I don't think that the countries that were occupied following WW2 were willing participants to the experiment of communism. Russia did what what it always intended and more. For some 40 years.

I'm sure that there are many people in this country that no longer think that they are getting a fair deal. Over the past 10 years the divide between rich and poorer has grown wider under the current Government than narrower.

DVardysShadow

maginot wrote: »

... Otherwise you could also argue that McDonalds brings peace because no country that has a McDonalds has ever gone to war???

Now there is a testable hypothesis. Open one in Kabul?

Serbia had a franchise in 1988.

tomterm8

leveller2911 wrote: »

So where does "Harmony" end and Communism begin?.
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I don't think "Harmony" in the EU sence is related to the monetary system (i.e. whether the state is communist or capitalist), it is a political concept. Harmonisation in essence is the process of turning Europe from a continent of nation states, into a single federal nation like the United States of America.

The United States of America is a capitalist society, and I think the United States of Europe would also essentially be a capitalist society. But it would all be one country. Diferent "member states" such as the UK, France etc would not be in control of the armed services, foreign policy, currency or similar powers of state, and would not be soverign.

Personally, my own view is that it should be for the British people to decide, via a referendum, if they want this to occur.

maginot wrote: »

Otherwise you could also argue that McDonalds brings peace because no country that has a McDonalds has ever gone to war???

I think the US might have gone to war a few times since McDonalds started.

maginot

A McDonalds based country against another McDonalds based country! EU countries have still gone to war since its creation.
Although actually thinking about it, you could class the Georgia/Russia conflict as breaking this, but was this actually a war. Also Bosnia was a civil war, although all did have McDonalds!!

DVardysShadow

maginot wrote: »

EU countries have still gone to war since its creation.

But not with each other

Asheron

The E.U is the foundations to a Global Government, We were in the E.U for 50 years in secret before they told us.

Hitlers dream was world domination, and the same people who funded Hitler, are very much in power today

Ask your self who is more Evil? Hitler or the people that funded Hitler ?

purch

The E.U is the foundations to a Global Government

Revelations 13:17 ............. the Beast

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

maginot

DVardysShadow wrote: »

But not with each other

That was my point with McDonalds!!!
The benefits of trade and capitalism make war with each other more damaging to peoples income and so unlikely between the developing world.
Previously war was used to increase a countries wealth, now with much smaller barriers to trade this is not needed to the same extent.

DVardysShadow

maginot wrote: »

That was my point with McDonalds!!!
The benefits of trade and capitalism make war with each other more damaging to peoples income and so unlikely between the developing world.
Previously war was used to increase a countries wealth, now with much smaller barriers to trade this is not needed to the same extent.

The EU is better than McDonalds? Damned with faint praise.

StevieJ

purch wrote: »

Revelations 13:17 ............. the Beast

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

6

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6
Ronald Wilson Reagan

You can see how they were worried at the time, especially with the Iron Lady running shotgun :eek:

Obviously another false alarm, but it would have probably sent Ashie running for cover at the time also wouldn't have done the sales of the Omen series any harm.