help. Xmas do... suspected of doing DRUGS!!!!!!

Anihilator

I bet the OP wont get a no win no fee solicitor to take this case should he be dismissed on the facts of it and giving procedurally it seems fine he best start saving for the lawyer now.

bristol_pilot

It's not a question of 'authority'. They have the 'authority' to dismiss you for nothing if they want, or make a decision on the toss of a coin. It would just look bad for them later if they do.

Personally I think you should go to the OH meeting tomorrow, tell the whole truth. Take the data sheet that came with your medication, maybe the pills themselves and the prescription. I wouldn't request a drug test, but take it if requested/offered. The OH thing might just be desperate fishing expedition in the hope that it will find that you really are taking drugs, it might be prep for a dismissal on capability, it might even be genuine concern for your welfare - I can't offer anything more than speculation as to the reason for the OH mtg, but on the whole I reckon it's better if you attend.

BTW - do lawyers in your area not want paid work? Very strange!

bristol_pilot

Anihilator wrote: »

I bet the OP wont get a no win no fee solicitor to take this case should he be dismissed on the facts of it and giving procedurally it seems fine he best start saving for the lawyer now.

He should not be going for a 'no-win, no-fee' solicitor IMO. Some firms offer an initial 30 mins free so that they can assess the case, but a PAID lawyer - employment law specialist - is required. You get what you pay for. A few hours advice from a qualified professional is a sound investment to protect future lifetime earnings.

Anihilator

bristol_pilot wrote: »

He should not be going for a 'no-win, no-fee' solicitor IMO. Some firms offer an initial 30 mins free so that they can assess the case, but a PAID lawyer - employment law specialist - is required. You get what you pay for. A few hours advice from a qualified professional is a sound investment to protect future lifetime earnings.

Maybe so but if a no win no fee firm wont touch him it basically means he has no case.

Go on OP do us a favour phone a few and see if they will take your case :rolleyes:

Even the paid ones dont want to touch it.

DVardysShadow

Anihilator wrote: »

Maybe so but if a no win no fee firm wont touch him it basically means he has no case.

Go on OP do us a favour phone a few and see if they will take your case :rolleyes:

Even the paid ones dont want to touch it.

But you venturing an opinion [No fee no win lawyer won't touch it] does not always map on to a real fact.

bristol_pilot

I did mention I was on them, to the manager who is chairing the disciplinary actually... he didn't really say much he just kind of said "oh right"
You did 'mention' it - !!!!!!. You ought to be in a position to demonstate conclusively that the company have been made fully aware - in writing, by signed-for special delivery - of the full details of the side effects of your medication and how they explain the symptoms that you have been 'accused of'. Same goes for other relevant aspects of your current situation.

No, I haven't got a lawyer yet, I've rung around, fishing for advice but all they will tell me is - just go to the disciplinary and point out all the inaccuracies and give explanations... if you get dismissed then give us a call back.
I simply don't believe you that lawyers don't want work. I have actually been cold-called by a solicitor going door-to-door looking for work.

I have been trying... anyway, in relation to the visit to OH tomorrow, do they have the authority to make a decision about whether or not i'm fit and capable enough to be attending the disciplinary? despite the doctor's sick note.
You may feel you are trying, but really you are not. Stop trying, start doing. IMHO, you have not even begun to assert yourself. One is sympathetic as this may be the effect of depression, but really now is the time to get some backbone and stand up for yourself. If you feel you really can't face up to the challenge, that's even more reason to get a lawyer.

robredz

Anihilator wrote: »

I bet the OP wont get a no win no fee solicitor to take this case should he be dismissed on the facts of it and giving procedurally it seems fine he best start saving for the lawyer now.

Anything slightly complex even with a good chance of winning may well be refused by a no win no fee, if the potential cut of the damages is outside telephone numbers imho. Any refusal by a NWNF is not a reliable pointer as to the merits of any individual case.

Savvy_Sue

Surely the solicitors are just being a bit canny here?

None of them want to waste a free half hour giving advice before the disciplinary, because there's still a possibility that the result will be complete exoneration for the OP and a slapped wrist or more for the manager?

bristol_pilot

"I've rung around, fishing for advice". Wrong approach.

Don't fish for free advice, call to make an appointment.

The outcome could well be exoneration, a small payment in damages or an order to re-instate. But if the sols are being paid by the hour I can't see why they wouldn't provide advice. They don't have to give a half hour free, most don't.

DirectDebacle

bristol_pilot wrote: »

I did mention I was on them, to the manager who is chairing the disciplinary actually... he didn't really say much he just kind of said "oh right"
You did 'mention' it - !!!!!!. You ought to be in a position to demonstate conclusively that the company have been made fully aware - in writing, by signed-for special delivery - of the full details of the side effects of your medication and how they explain the symptoms that you have been 'accused of'. Same goes for other relevant aspects of your current situation.

No, I haven't got a lawyer yet, I've rung around, fishing for advice but all they will tell me is - just go to the disciplinary and point out all the inaccuracies and give explanations... if you get dismissed then give us a call back.
I simply don't believe you that lawyers don't want work. I have actually been cold-called by a solicitor going door-to-door looking for work.

I have been trying... anyway, in relation to the visit to OH tomorrow, do they have the authority to make a decision about whether or not i'm fit and capable enough to be attending the disciplinary? despite the doctor's sick note.
You may feel you are trying, but really you are not. Stop trying, start doing. IMHO, you have not even begun to assert yourself. One is sympathetic as this may be the effect of depression, but really now is the time to get some backbone and stand up for yourself. If you feel you really can't face up to the challenge, that's even more reason to get a lawyer.

I agree with the above and share the sense of frustration that it conveys to me.

The OP seems to be adopting an approach of delaying tactics and seems fearful that an OH nurses opinion will outweigh a G.Ps. It won't.

In addition to all the comments made re the motives prompting this OH consultation the OP has to also bear in mind that this a real opportunity for him to convince OH that there is no drugs problem. If he can do that then much of the evidence against him collapses.

At no time has the OP stated anything as emphatic as ' I do not and never have used drugs.'

If that were the case then he has everything to gain at the OH appointment.