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Must I declare Christmas present cheque?

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Hi

Self employed but work reguarly all year round for a client. They paid me my usual wage this week but in my Christmas card there was a cheque for £50 as a thank you.

Do I have to pay tax on this cheque?
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  • Cook_County
    Cook_County Posts: 3,092 Forumite
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    Why do you think this is self-employment as against employment?
  • glider3560
    glider3560 Posts: 4,115 Forumite
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    Why do you think this is self-employment as against employment?
    Could be a regular customer?
  • larmy16
    larmy16 Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    edited 19 December 2009 at 2:25PM
    Because I am self employed but do some work for this person weekly.

    I pay my tax, NI etc myself.

    I just wondered if as it was a gift I have to pay tax on it.
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  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    If its a gift, i wouldnt have thought so.

    Presumably you have a personal account as well as your business account,
    just put it into there.

    Write on the back of the cheque (just in case) gift from xxxxx
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • I would say its a tip/bonus therefore is taxable.
  • roger196
    roger196 Posts: 610 Forumite
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    Although these are employee cases, the same principles might well apply especially as your self-employment looks more like employment to me ( wages, one client). Is it a "gift" or a bonus for work done disguised as a gift. From a pragmatic view for £50, the potential loss of tax is hardly going to worry the revenue. If you are higher rate the tax is £20, it costs more to write a letter of enquiry. However they would take a different view if the "gift" was £10,000 or £50 was paid to each of 1000 "employees". From a paye audit viewpoint on the "employer", the major loss of revenue is "self-employment", especially loss of NIC class1A and B compared to NIC class4
  • larmy16
    larmy16 Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    Roger I work for this lady for 3 hours per week. She is among many of my clients. Without going into details of my self employment ( that sounds worse than it is!), I shall just put the cheque through my books. Then there can be no mistake.

    Maybe I should not have used the word "wage" as it seems to have confused the issue - sorry.

    Thanks all.
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  • fengirl_2
    fengirl_2 Posts: 4,530 Forumite
    I would say its income of the business - would she have given you the money if you didnt work for her?
    £705,000 raised by client groups in the past 18 mths :beer:
  • zenmaster
    zenmaster Posts: 3,151 Forumite
    edited 19 December 2009 at 5:29PM
    fengirl wrote: »
    I would say its income of the business - would she have given you the money if you didnt work for her?

    Surely that would also apply to posties, binmen etc who often receive Christmas tips. I doubt any of them are declared as income.

    PS: I could be wrong about this!
  • larmy16
    larmy16 Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    Had she given me for the sake of an example, an expensive pair of gloves, a luxury box of choccies and a bottle spirits, then that would be no problem, even if they amounted to £50. That would be a legitimate gift but money would not. Seems strange but I am still going to declare it.
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