Personally i cant see what all the fuss is about, how can you tell how long a child has been in a soiled nappy, some of them are quite happy to run around with a soled nappy and dont even notice. Do they watch for them grunting then set the clock going. How can they time such a thing.
And please dont reply by saying 'how would you feel ..........'
Ask some of your grannies what used to happen in the 'olden' days,
They could probably make your hair curl.
In the `olden` days we used terry nappies and children knew when they were wet or had done a poo, so pretty well every child was well on the way to being potty trained at 2. The disposable nappies are making things much harder for parents as the children cannot feel when they are wet
We had a similar problem with my son when he was smaller. I was told (and had it confirmed by the Education board) that a school cannot refuse a non-toilet trained child for their compulsory education. However they can do so up until the age that the child is legally required to be at school, so at 2 1/2 if the rules are still they same the nursery can ask you to take her out until she is toilet trained as there is no legal requirement for her to be in nursery.
I think we are all focussing on the immediate isssue of the nursery taking or not taking her.
But it is such a big issue for your child ieshe tries to hold it in etc.....
I would be looking at remidies to solve the psycological effect it is now having on her and at 4 it is such a tiny age to be dealing with all the issues and getting a problem over something.
I personally would not be dosing my child up on strong medicine when i am sure there are other remidies .
Before anyone shouts, my son as a newborn had this for 6 weeeks so am not being coldharted just thinking there has got to be other ways other than drugs.
I work in a nursery school. We have a few new children who are in Trainer Pants. If they have an accident we change them - never ring their parents & ask them to come in & do it !! I think that's ridiculously silly !. All it does is make the child feel bad & guilty.
All our children have spare clothes on their pegs, so when a child has an accident we just change them. can't see the problem your poor daughter.& you
I agree it does seem crazy to ring parents but think about the facilities a school has available??? This isnt a day nursery.
I am a nursery teacher we have a ratio (for our 3 year olds) of one adult to 13 kids.
Of course we change them if they wee but if they poo and are in a mess it is very hard to clean tham as we are not allowed to wipe them, have no where to lie them down and can not give them baby wipes. On the other hand I wouldn't leave them covered- I would try to get them to clean themselves as best as they could and put on clean clothes and then if necessary contact parents to do a more thorough clean. I am not allowed by my teacher to do anything else
However if there is a diagnosed medical need (eg. we have a child with downs) then a care plan should be made (wihich may or may not involve getting funding for extra support) which would haave a clear plan in place for these instances- hope this helps
I agree it does seem crazy to ring parents but think about the facilities a school has available??? This isnt a day nursery.
I am a nursery teacher we have a ratio (for our 3 year olds) of one adult to 13 kids.
Of course we change them if they wee but if they poo and are in a mess it is very hard to clean tham as we are not allowed to wipe them, have no where to lie them down and can not give them baby wipes. On the other hand I wouldn't leave them covered- I would try to get them to clean themselves as best as they could and put on clean clothes and then if necessary contact parents to do a more thorough clean. I am not allowed by my teacher to do anything else
However if there is a diagnosed medical need (eg. we have a child with downs) then a care plan should be made (wihich may or may not involve getting funding for extra support) which would haave a clear plan in place for these instances- hope this helps
I don't know if this is just a Welsh thing, but we now have an early years curriculum which covers nursery and infants and the ratio is 1 adult to 8 children aged 3. I guess that makes things easier (especially as there's 67 full time 3 year old children in DS's year!).
Jxx
And it looks like we made it once again
Yes it looks like we made it to the end
The ratio used to be 1:8 in our LEA but some years ago they decided (the lEA) that they would allow 1:13 LEA wide- bizarre as it is the 8th most deprived LEA in the country!!!! I dont know how they get away with it though. I really wosh it way 1:8 it would make my life a whole lot easier
I work in a nursery school. We have a few new children who are in Trainer Pants. If they have an accident we change them - never ring their parents & ask them to come in & do it !! I think that's ridiculously silly !. All it does is make the child feel bad & guilty.
All our children have spare clothes on their pegs, so when a child has an accident we just change them. can't see the problem your poor daughter.& you
When I did a work placement at nursery, this is what happened too. The parents were then informed (when the child was picked up) that the child had soiled themselves and that was it.
Asking the parents to come in and change them is a little too OTT, I think.
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My daughter is 3 and 3 months and she is still in nappies, we have been trying on and off to train her in pants but its proving very difficult. Our older DD was done in two weeks at the age of 2 so they are all different.
My daughter goes a pre school of the junior school her sister attends and they have no problem changing her they sit her on the loo as do we at home to encourage things.
I think its shocking that they phone you and leave her soiled till you get there, I hope you get it sorted.
If they dont like changing pants then being in a pre school/nursery is the wrong business for them frankly!
Just to add, DDs pre school have their own wipes etc and have no trouble sorting her out. I was willing to wait sending her till she was fully sorted but they said it was fine.
If they left her covered in poo till I picked her up and I would be looking to send her somewhere else as thats revolting and humiliating for the child
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In the `olden` days we used terry nappies and children knew when they were wet or had done a poo, so pretty well every child was well on the way to being potty trained at 2. The disposable nappies are making things much harder for parents as the children cannot feel when they are wet
But it is such a big issue for your child ieshe tries to hold it in etc.....
I would be looking at remidies to solve the psycological effect it is now having on her and at 4 it is such a tiny age to be dealing with all the issues and getting a problem over something.
I personally would not be dosing my child up on strong medicine when i am sure there are other remidies .
Before anyone shouts, my son as a newborn had this for 6 weeeks so am not being coldharted just thinking there has got to be other ways other than drugs.
All our children have spare clothes on their pegs, so when a child has an accident we just change them. can't see the problem
I am a nursery teacher we have a ratio (for our 3 year olds) of one adult to 13 kids.
Of course we change them if they wee but if they poo and are in a mess it is very hard to clean tham as we are not allowed to wipe them, have no where to lie them down and can not give them baby wipes. On the other hand I wouldn't leave them covered- I would try to get them to clean themselves as best as they could and put on clean clothes and then if necessary contact parents to do a more thorough clean. I am not allowed by my teacher to do anything else
However if there is a diagnosed medical need (eg. we have a child with downs) then a care plan should be made (wihich may or may not involve getting funding for extra support) which would haave a clear plan in place for these instances- hope this helps
I don't know if this is just a Welsh thing, but we now have an early years curriculum which covers nursery and infants and the ratio is 1 adult to 8 children aged 3. I guess that makes things easier (especially as there's 67 full time 3 year old children in DS's year!).
Jxx
Yes it looks like we made it to the end
When I did a work placement at nursery, this is what happened too. The parents were then informed (when the child was picked up) that the child had soiled themselves and that was it.
Asking the parents to come in and change them is a little too OTT, I think.
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My daughter goes a pre school of the junior school her sister attends and they have no problem changing her they sit her on the loo as do we at home to encourage things.
I think its shocking that they phone you and leave her soiled till you get there, I hope you get it sorted.
If they dont like changing pants then being in a pre school/nursery is the wrong business for them frankly!
Just to add, DDs pre school have their own wipes etc and have no trouble sorting her out. I was willing to wait sending her till she was fully sorted but they said it was fine.
If they left her covered in poo till I picked her up and I would be looking to send her somewhere else as thats revolting and humiliating for the child