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£800 tax bill for £9k income - too much?

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  • Any
    Any Posts: 7,959 Forumite
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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0340984449/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

    This one looks good for tax... cannot see there the one I saw in shop...

    The best is really to go to a shop (big one) and go through the books. Quite often the format makes quite a big difference as it's easy to loose yourself in it if the format is difficult to follow.

    The one I went to (WH Smith I think?) had like 15 books on simple accounting.
  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    edited 23 November 2009 at 3:54PM
    Any wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0340984449/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

    This one looks good for tax... cannot see there the one I saw in shop...

    The best is really to go to a shop (big one) and go through the books. Quite often the format makes quite a big difference as it's easy to loose yourself in it if the format is difficult to follow.

    The one I went to (WH Smith I think?) had like 15 books on simple accounting.

    Thanks for that, I'll have a look. And thanks for all your help :D
    Can I put the book down as a business expense? lol
    I'd put off buying a book on tax as a lot of it jsut isn't relevant to OH as a sole trader, but that one looks pretty good, I think I'll give it a go.
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  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    edited 23 November 2009 at 4:02PM
    Can I just add for the casual reader, that when you first start working on your own account you get a tax holiday until the January after your first 5th of April. You submit your first tax return and the system works all the tax you already owe on your profits, and demands tax in advance for the year that has not finished yet.

    Comes as a nasty shock to people who have spent it all.

    What capital assets does your husband use in his business - it is sometimes cost effective to simply hire what you need when you need it; let someone else worry about depreciation and the risk of owning something that could get broken or become technically obsolete..
  • McKneff
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    Glad you pointed that out PP, it was a nasty shock to me a few years ago
    when HMRC wanted last years tax, this years tax and next years tax all at once. Not many new to self employment are aware of it.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    Can I just add for the casual reader, that when you first start working on your own account you get a tax holiday until the January after your first 5th of April. You submit your first tax return and the system works all the tax you already owe on your profits, and demands tax in advance for the year that has not finished yet.

    Comes as a nasty shock to people who have spent it all.

    What capital assets does your husband use in his business - it is sometimes cost effective to simply hire what you need when you need it; let someone else worry about depreciation and the risk of owning something that could get broken or become technically obsolete..

    I don't understand that bit?

    Capital assets, he's a gardener so things like hedge cutters, lawnmowers, etc. We bought most second hand so in the first year it was less than 1k worth and this year about the same. He uses them a lot and does his own servicing, he loves his machines so I don't think I could convince him to hire them! But when the time comes to get a van I think we'll lease one.
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  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    Glad you pointed that out PP, it was a nasty shock to me a few years ago
    when HMRC wanted last years tax, this years tax and next years tax all at once. Not many new to self employment are aware of it.

    I can't see anything about that on the letter he was sent. I thought you fill out a tax return for the previous year, they work out your tax and send you a bill...
    every year
    Is that not how it works?
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  • ragz wrote: »
    Yes he's self employed as a sole trader.

    Figures from tax calculation they sent the other day

    Profit from self employment £8,692

    If his income was £9,300 (ish), then his expenses look low to me. This is where you either need to do a lot more research or pay an accountant to ensure you are claiming all applicable allowable expenses.

    HTH
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  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    ragz wrote: »
    I can't see anything about that on the letter he was sent. I thought you fill out a tax return for the previous year, they work out your tax and send you a bill...
    every year
    Is that not how it works?

    'They' will assume, unless you tell them otherwise that in the next year you will earn the same amount of money and will therefore demand half the tax upfront (not all of it). Next year, of course, you'll already have paid half-ish of it.
  • You only have to make a payment on account if the tax you owe is more than £1000 so this will not matter this year. You need to be aware though as the tax is very near this threshold.
  • anon_ymous
    anon_ymous Posts: 1,997 Forumite
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    I dont know how true this is, but apparently you can also call your accountants bill an expense
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